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xNonphixionx

04.09.2012 , 07:02 PM \| #181	Quote
Definitely agree that in SWTOR its the players and not the class. There's amazing players of every class. And there's horrible players of every class. In SWTOR it truelly matter who is behind the keyboard.

Ballisticbryan

04.09.2012 , 07:07 PM \| #182	Quote
here is my list.... 1. none 2.none 3. none. point is .. learn 2 play your class better.. use interrupts, and stuns....
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MidichIorian

04.09.2012 , 07:10 PM \| #183	Quote
Quote: Originally Posted by Pathlight- No OP classes in PVP, just great, average and bad players. My definition of OP is a class that can make even the worst of players look good. Sorcs/sages have been blamed for being easy to handle but they are nowhere near as easy to top dps charts with as the mercs. Just to make sure that it wasnt in my head I actually rolled a merc in the purpose of establishing how OP/noob friendly the class is. From my first pvp (bolster but with hardly any abilities) game I've been able to consistently top the dps chart but for a few times when I've been beaten by other mercs. How is it not OP that I'm able to take down anyone who even tries to get near the ball spawn, and all by using three abilities in contrast to the 18 or so I use on my sorc?

Vinxius

04.09.2012 , 08:03 PM \| #184	Quote
The fact that the OP and the majority of the posters on this thread did not state their Level, Valor Rank, and Gear makes this thread a complete waste of space. It suggests that people think PVP should be balanced across all levels and gear, and not just at level 50 with full BM gear. PvP balance at just one level/gear is already a near impossible task, to ask for anything more just mean you don't appreciate the complexity involve. It makes me laugh that noobs thinks their opinion on PvP balance matters just because they play the game.

Vaipyr

04.09.2012 , 08:17 PM \| #185	Quote
Quote: Originally Posted by Vinxius It makes me laugh that noobs thinks their opinion on PvP balance matters just because they play the game. Oh the narcissistic elitism runs oh so rampant in every thread made around here. It's almost impressive in it's disturbing nature.

Powerr

04.09.2012 , 08:27 PM \| #186	Quote
what a dumb thread and even dumber responses
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Grab

04.09.2012 , 08:33 PM \| #187	Quote
Powertech here, Valor 59 champ and columi geared Pyro Spec. I think alot of you are combining our trees. Here's my breakdown. Pyro X-X-31 Pros: Excellent burst w/ relic, pvp stim, explosive fuel (2 min CD) and lucky with railshot procs Thermal Det can hit hard Good burst if unlucky Good sustained damage Ok CC with 2 stuns Mobile Good team guard (does not mitigate for me) mitigation with one area missile debuff and one single target missile debuff Good area attack (area getting reduced to 5m from 8) Cons: Squishy, gives up a ton of survivability when in combustible gas cylinder. No heal (worthless health regen skill) 1 damage mitigation bubble. Heat builds fast when railshot doesn't proc. Most effective at melee range where people tend to focus Easy to CC Gimped if in Ion Gas Cylinder trying to guard...Dies too quick and cuts DPS substantially. To kill this guy (me) focus on me, I'm going after your healers to kill or keep them from healing you.I will die very very fast without help....guaranteed..CC me, I have one escape. Advanced Prototype X-31-X Pros: OK burst DPS Great against stationary morons Decent sustained DPS Grapples 15 secs earlier than other specs Best heat management Same missile debuffs Good area attack (area getting reduced to 5m from 8) Cons: Flame thrower...Have to stand still to use it, target has to basically stand still as well Rocket punch and retractable blade need a buff Same garbage heal capabilities Same weak bubble 31 point talent Immolate is lackluster Easy to CC To kill this guy stay mobile and burn him down, its going to take him a bit to kill you unless you are asleep. Shield Tech 31-X-X Pros: Can soak up damage Jet charge and grapple Missile debuffs One extra melee range debuff Guard is amazing when used properly Good area (area getting reduced to 5m from 8) Cons Is not going to kill you, railshot hits for ok damage but easily healed. 31 point talent Heat Blast is a joke, worthless in PvP. Easy to CC Bring a friend, burn him down, not gonna hurt you. Just don't let this guy hang around guarding a healer. Carolina Parakeet 21-2-18 Pros: Good damage Can guard Takes a decent amount of damage Good to great burst depending on railshot procs Same missile debuffs Mobile Grapple and jet charge Good area (area getting reduced to 5m from 8) Cons: Has to get very lucky with procs for your mouth to drop Not great at tanking, not great at DPS Same garbage heal capabilities Same weak bubble When played right this is the one people have alot of problems with, can hurt you and can take what you throw. I didn't care for this spec. They can guard but not near as well as a tank. They can DPS but not near as well as a pyro. A good DPS class will drop a parakeet pretty quickly. To sum up: Don't let Pyro's run around shooting your healers. Don't stand still next to a AP Don't let a shield spec guard a healer unnoticed Just kill the parakeet, whatever your DPS spec, you can get him. Pyro Railshots can get out of hand every now and then, getting fixed. FYI every time I back to back to back railshots there were five times when I got one Railshot out of five flame bursts. Parakeets will no longer exist. Tanks will be the same. AP's will still have to stand still Stop nerfing and play your class the best you can, it can be fun.

RioNHale

04.09.2012 , 08:46 PM \| #188	Quote
I wont say any are op, but imo the most effective classes in primarily pvp scenarios shape up like so: 1. Operative/Scoundrel, most effective stunlocks, best burst damage, stealth, great solo heals 2. Marauder/Sentinel, great leaps, dots, insane burst damage, Lol Tryndamere-style survival 3. Shadow/Assassin, good dps, great utility abilities, stealth, pull, sprint, tankey 4. Sage/Consular, good damage, dots, best heals, bubble, sprint 5. Vanguard/Powertech, pull, tankey as hell, good damage with dps gear 6. Juggernaut/Guardian, faceroll huttball with leaps, tankey, damage ok to great, really varies 7. Commando/Mercenary, good to great damage, good heals, some utility, work much better in groups than solo 8. Sniper/Gunslinger, great damage, nice range, immovable in cover
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Ortof

04.09.2012 , 09:12 PM \| #189	Quote
Quote: Originally Posted by Grab Powertech here, Valor 59 champ and columi geared Pyro Spec. I think alot of you are combining our trees. Here's my breakdown. Pyro X-X-31 Pros: Excellent burst w/ relic, pvp stim, explosive fuel (2 min CD) and lucky with railshot procs Thermal Det can hit hard Good burst if unlucky Good sustained damage Ok CC with 2 stuns Mobile Good team guard (does not mitigate for me) mitigation with one area missile debuff and one single target missile debuff Good area attack (area getting reduced to 5m from 8) Cons: Squishy, gives up a ton of survivability when in combustible gas cylinder. No heal (worthless health regen skill) 1 damage mitigation bubble. Heat builds fast when railshot doesn't proc. Most effective at melee range where people tend to focus Easy to CC Gimped if in Ion Gas Cylinder trying to guard...Dies too quick and cuts DPS substantially. To kill this guy (me) focus on me, I'm going after your healers to kill or keep them from healing you.I will die very very fast without help....guaranteed..CC me, I have one escape. Advanced Prototype X-31-X Pros: OK burst DPS Great against stationary morons Decent sustained DPS Grapples 15 secs earlier than other specs Best heat management Same missile debuffs Good area attack (area getting reduced to 5m from 8) Cons: Flame thrower...Have to stand still to use it, target has to basically stand still as well Rocket punch and retractable blade need a buff Same garbage heal capabilities Same weak bubble 31 point talent Immolate is lackluster Easy to CC To kill this guy stay mobile and burn him down, its going to take him a bit to kill you unless you are asleep. Shield Tech 31-X-X Pros: Can soak up damage Jet charge and grapple Missile debuffs One extra melee range debuff Guard is amazing when used properly Good area (area getting reduced to 5m from 8) Cons Is not going to kill you, railshot hits for ok damage but easily healed. 31 point talent Heat Blast is a joke, worthless in PvP. Easy to CC Bring a friend, burn him down, not gonna hurt you. Just don't let this guy hang around guarding a healer. Carolina Parakeet 21-2-18 Pros: Good damage Can guard Takes a decent amount of damage Good to great burst depending on railshot procs Same missile debuffs Mobile Grapple and jet charge Good area (area getting reduced to 5m from 8) Cons: Has to get very lucky with procs for your mouth to drop Not great at tanking, not great at DPS Same garbage heal capabilities Same weak bubble When played right this is the one people have alot of problems with, can hurt you and can take what you throw. I didn't care for this spec. They can guard but not near as well as a tank. They can DPS but not near as well as a pyro. A good DPS class will drop a parakeet pretty quickly. To sum up: Don't let Pyro's run around shooting your healers. Don't stand still next to a AP Don't let a shield spec guard a healer unnoticed Just kill the parakeet, whatever your DPS spec, you can get him. Pyro Railshots can get out of hand every now and then, getting fixed. FYI every time I back to back to back railshots there were five times when I got one Railshot out of five flame bursts. Parakeets will no longer exist. Tanks will be the same. AP's will still have to stand still Stop nerfing and play your class the best you can, it can be fun. Way WAY too much logic here. I play a Pyro Merc. Are you implying that if I do infact see another Bounty Hunter he isn't a Tracer Spamming person that's able to 2 shot me? I am shocked sir.

Sylvarine

04.09.2012 , 09:24 PM \| #190	Quote
The most op'd class in the game.. well it's not really a class.. it's the ability "guard" imo. Give the nature of how it's used... having no cd.... and it being able to be kept on someone permanently < well until they die >, it's the root of all evil when it comes to the healing nerfs. A tank with all his cd's up and guard on a healer.. may as well walk away unless you have some incredible burst on your side. I think if anything it needs to be looked at and changed. Stick it on a 2 min cd, have it last 15-20 secs when used.. talent it for say a 30 sec reduction. In lieu of it tanks would need to be given some other sort of bread and butter I suppose. With rated on the horizons, the teams that will be unbeatable will be those with multiple tanks/healers. Already a proven fact from multiple other posts showing teams that have never been beaten running this combo due to it being impossible to kill anyone.

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