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Is it true they are removing Lightsaber colors in 1.2?

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Is it true they are removing Lightsaber colors in 1.2?

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Geoduck
04.09.2012 , 06:30 PM | #61
Quote: Originally Posted by DeutschGamer View Post
Totally disagree, that's a really narrow minded view.
Not really. I mean look at the sacking of Coruscant trailer. Even Bioware went with Red= Sith, Blue & Green = Jedi.
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monkgryphon
04.09.2012 , 06:45 PM | #62
Quote: Originally Posted by Fallensouls View Post
LOL dont quote the time line vidoes there are many errors in them. Like they say Revan met the Emporer and was doing his bidding when he attacked the Republic, but in SWOTOR 2 Darth Treya said Revan never met the true sith, that he gained his Knowledge on his own and saw that the sith were going to attack in the future and was making the republic strong for that day. The time line made Revan the emporers pawn when in fact he was not.
I don't know what SWOTOR 2 is. However, I do know the Knights of the Old Republic 2 was made by another developer, Obsidian, that is great for making new games by using some already developed game engine. This being that way, they did not use any events from KotOR 2 at all for coming up with their new game The Old Republic. I figured the Revan novel would shed a little light on what happened.

Also using what you just wrote, he could never have met the true sith. There are no actual pureblooded sith around anymore.

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Prismatico
04.09.2012 , 06:47 PM | #63
Quote: Originally Posted by LemmingLeader View Post
Disagree with the movies then.
Then should Chiss not be in the game?

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monkgryphon
04.09.2012 , 06:52 PM | #64
Quote: Originally Posted by Prismatico View Post
Then should Chiss not be in the game?
Not to mention Miraluka or Mirialan, though there may have been 1 mirialan.

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Valin_Thren
04.09.2012 , 06:53 PM | #65
Quote: Originally Posted by GhostDrone View Post
Sometimes, narrow minded is the way to go.
Rarely.

A Sith follows hardly any rules but his own. You're not going to tell me a Sith couldn't break tradition and use any colour saber he damn pleased. To restrict crystals in such a way when the Empire has a clear presence on Ilum, where blue and green can be found, is not only silly in a lore sense, it's silly in a gaming sense. A developer should *always* enable customisation.

Likewise, Jedi have been seen using every colour saber we know of, to my knowledge, albeit not in this period. "Oh, that's only a few cases," you may object, but consider: the character is also an elite, one-of-a-kind Jedi. We deserve all the options we've seen in terms of that.

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Valin_Thren
04.09.2012 , 06:58 PM | #66
Quote: Originally Posted by Fallensouls View Post
I totally agree with you except purple is considered a darkside color along with the orange blade. Jedi could use any color saber they wanted to except the sith colors. Unless a Jedi went dark side and rarely did they show they went dark by using a red blade. So its kinda dumb that its going this way, but anything to get money from the game like haveing light sided sith race, really stupid.
It's stupider to assume every single member of a species must behave in an exact way. I can't think of one trait every human that has ever existed shares.

Jedi could use Sith colours anyways. Mace had a purple saber, Adi Gallia had a red saber, etc. Conversely, darksiders used other colours than red. Exar Kun used blue, Ulic Qel-Droma was shown with red, blue, yellow, and green at varying times, etc.

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Wolfeisberg
04.09.2012 , 07:01 PM | #67
Quote: Originally Posted by smilefunk View Post
derp, of course it was blue... it HAD to be (i'm sure you can figure out why)
and yeah, what's he gonna do? stop mid-battle cause he can't physically use it? dumb.

fyi...

"As Kit Fisto's lightsaber hilt was a personal favorite of Nick Gillard, Cin Drallig's lightsaber hilt bears a resemblance to Fisto's. Based on behind the scenes materials, the lightsaber blade was originally to be rotoscoped in yellow. However, George Lucas would only allow either blue or green as the color of any regular Jedi's lightsaber blade. With the exception of Samuel L. Jackson's violet lightsaber blade he used as Mace Windu, Lucas would go no further with other colors"

why don't any of you bring up the clone wars?...
a hundred jedi at the arena ALL BUT ONE with blue and green sabers.
The movies are stand alone, nothing more then a story about the rise, fall, and rise again of Anakin Skywalker, with little to no references to anything of the past. There has been a whole extended universe that has been created based on the works of George Lucas, with his permission though he didnt use the Extended universe for his movies, where the stories of the Movies have been put into the extended Universe, but the extended universe is still just based on George Lucas creation and has a lore unto it self.

SWTOR is a part of this Extended universe and uses the lore of the extended universe, and in the lore Light Saber colors are a preference of the user.

It was wrong based on the lore by which this game was created on to have the restrictions in the first place.
How do you measure the success of an MMO?
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Captain_Zone
04.09.2012 , 07:04 PM | #68
Ok, listen up, movie "purists". I can say this once. While the traditional colors of the Jedi have been blue and green since the OT, they are by NO MEANS mandatory. Also, while the traditional colors of the Sith have always been red, and purple to some extent, they are also by NO MEANS mandatory.

Now, there have been Jedi who used different colored lightsabers, even in the movies. *cough* Mace Wndu and Plo Koon *cough*. So yeah, I don't wanna hear that noise that ALL Jedi sabers HAVE to be either blue or green or it's against canon or that ALL Sith sabers HAVE to be red or purple or it's against canon *cough* Exar Kun *cough*. So if you're gonna QQ, please QQ early and often! I will lick those sweet sweet tears from your faces.
. OPOD
The New Jedi Code: "Keep Calm & Carry a Lightsaber"

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Valin_Thren
04.09.2012 , 07:04 PM | #69
Quote: Originally Posted by Fallensouls View Post
LOL dont quote the time line vidoes there are many errors in them. Like they say Revan met the Emporer and was doing his bidding when he attacked the Republic, but in SWOTOR 2 Darth Treya said Revan never met the true sith, that he gained his Knowledge on his own and saw that the sith were going to attack in the future and was making the republic strong for that day. The time line made Revan the emporers pawn when in fact he was not.
Consider that Kreia had no idea what she was talking about. She never met Revan again after his apprenticeship, and was assuming his motives based on very, very little knowledge.

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amantheil
04.09.2012 , 07:15 PM | #70
Quote: Originally Posted by LemmingLeader View Post
Disagree with the movies then.
You do realize this game takes place a few THOUSAND years before the movies, right?

In 1776 the British Army wore red coats and carried muskets. In the 1860s the U.S. Army wore blue jackets.

Neither one wears those uniforms now. They have radically different uniforms and weapons. They don't ride horses any more.

And that was only two to three HUNDRED years ago.

Things change. Customs and traditions change over that long a period of time.

Not to mention the fact that the movies had what - four Sith total? And I don't remember Palpatine or Dooku using light sabers at all (I haven't seen those awful prequels in a while). You can't really conjecture what the Sith did thousands of years in the past based on what 2-4 individuals did.