Who Swtor was made for.

For the last time Lucasarts didn't shut SWG down SOE chose to not renew their license which Lucasarts was perfectly willing to do. In other words blame Smed; hell he gets blamed for everything else since the Spanish Inquisition.

Where we will agree is that casual player is taken out of context

I am a casual gamer

I play far more often with far more characters than most casual players play

I am hardcore, for a casual gamer. I call myself casual because that is my approach to the game, I just play to have fun, not worried about elitism, not worried about status, just playing for enjoyment sake.

it is generally those that call themselves Hardcore, that want to feel elite, that actually desire themselves to be in the tiny minority of players

well... they are

and you don’t make a successful product catering to the tiny minority of your customers.

That's fine, but when literary reviews are saying your storytelling committed suicide at the end of your game, the market analysts can go suck a lemon. There is such a thing as a customer who is dissatisfied but doesn't complain about it vocally. They just stop buying the products.

The problem is that people devour the game without any pauses and get burned out, don't even want to try doing things for the sake of doing things and then complain that the game is boring.

This isn't to be confused with people who get bored because they find the whole genre boring. Why those people keep buying games at launch from a genre they don't like in the first place, then complain that it's crap is beyond me but, well, at least BW gets more money to make the game better so *shrug*

This this this..

Personally i see myself as a bit of a hardcore player in the sense i like to do everything, Have multiple toons, craft, do space, datacrons...etc etc

Have i finished yet....No..

Will i get bored....Unlikely

Basically if your playing an MMO and you only want to PVP or Raid, or Craft... then you will be disappointed, no matter what you play.

End of the day the game will stabilize, the options will be there for players at some point who focus on 1-2 aspects of the game.....

For me the game is awesome.....Has done everything I like doing (basically everything) really well....and will get better and better.

BTW, great post OP.

I think that is the most honest and even handed criticism I've read yet. I quit playing MMO's years ago, I guess because they felt catered to the hardcore MMO player. Everquest, Asheron's Call, Galaxies *Which I so wanted to love but couldn't*, and the best PVP game ever done for the MMO world. Dark Age of Camelot. (If I dev reads this one... go back and look at how that game handled open world PvP and you will find some answers to your problems.)

Funnily enough, I have always felt that I myself was a hardcore gamer. I guess in the last few years I've been proven wrong.

When I played those, it felt like it took forever to reach endgame content. This game it was quite quick. WHich made me happy. Now, I don't have anything to do on my main except to raid once or twice a week. Which does leave me bored sometimes. But, for the most part. I find it to be exactly what I wanted it to be. I guess the race will be for those who aren't quite hardcore gamers, but still want to be engaged, is how quickly will we run out of content to play that is new and fresh to us, before they stop giving us new content. So far, for my play level, Bioware is still in the lead in that reguard. But, the longer they take to give each new content patch; the more likely a 2/3's hardcore MMOer like me can catch up.

What literary review is this?

Mass Effect 3 received over 75 perfect scores and won over 50 awards...I honestly think that speaks louder than this guy. EA will be fine as will BioWare; the people who took the real credibility hit is the Consumerist and the self entitled gamers.