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1.2 War Hero Gear on PTS - Now requires BM gear :)

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1.2 War Hero Gear on PTS - Now requires BM gear :)
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Noctournys
04.07.2012 , 10:52 PM | #171
Quote: Originally Posted by ClogMan View Post
This is just LOL.

So as a champion geared player, in 1.2 this is what i will have to do, to be a tad more usefull then a wet noodle in PvP, after 1.2 patch:

1) Ditch all Champ + cent gear.
2) Buy a recruit PvP set for 500K.
3) Play some non rated warzone to get 417 warzone comms.
4) Spend saved warzone comms (max 1333 after being robbed in the merc. comms conversion) + 417 = 1750 on a BM mainhand weapon.
5) Play non rated warsones for BM gear.
6) a month later, start playing rated warzones to replace BM gear for war hero gear

Thats just great....
Its about 8 games to get a piece of BM gear. 8 Games.

Have an entire set in less than a week. On top of that - the champ gear is better than recruit gear. So youll want to keep that.

In addition - Merc coms can be traded 1:1 in 1.2

Glad you took the time to educate yourself though, before going off on a pointless rant.
entia non sunt multiplicanda praeter necessitatem
Also, 'cause im tired of talking about it:
http://www.swtor.com/community/showt...222960&page=11

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Noctournys
04.07.2012 , 10:57 PM | #172
Quote: Originally Posted by Metronomotopoeia View Post
The stats are way better than Champion. That's the whole point. He's not wrong, or trolling. He's right.
No they arent. Theyre better than Centurtion, but they aren't better than Champion at all. Each piece of Agent armor has roughly 25-30 endurance less than my Champion pieces.. for a tradeoff of 10 expertise. That's not better at all.

No way a 150 point expertise gain is going to make up for almost 3200 lost HP.
entia non sunt multiplicanda praeter necessitatem
Also, 'cause im tired of talking about it:
http://www.swtor.com/community/showt...222960&page=11

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KiranK
04.07.2012 , 11:04 PM | #173
Really no reason to cry over this. BM gear is gonna be dirt cheap. With the absence of Mercenary comms, it'll be roughly 1/3 the cost of what it used to be and requires to valor. War Hero gear isn't all that expensive either.
There's no QQing in baseball.

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Zbus
04.07.2012 , 11:55 PM | #174
My only real problem now is the supposed stat diffrence between the war hero and bm gear as compared to champ/recruit. Now currently i have the full champ set and 1 piece of BM maybe 2 if I get lucky in the next day or 2. Anyway in its current state I am pretty much on equal footing with full BM guys while fighting sure they have a small advantage but its not enough to make that huge of a diffrence in the outcome of a fight. But if I am reading this correct the new war hero stuff will put that huge gap i had to overcome when first starting back into play again.

And while yes the new Bm stuff will be alot easier to get I worry i will have to play the door mat again for at min. of 2 weeks to guys who have huge amounts of time to do the rated till they cap out on gear. Im not really gripeing mind ya I just hate the idea of being a free kill all over again even for just a short period of time. With that said I do like the idea of a more level playing field. Maybe im just being selfish /shrug but haveing to relive my first few weeks of lvl 50 again is not appealing to me.

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mausty
04.08.2012 , 12:13 AM | #175
Quote: Originally Posted by ClogMan View Post
This is just LOL.

So as a champion geared player, in 1.2 this is what i will have to do, to be a tad more usefull then a wet noodle in PvP, after 1.2 patch:

1) Ditch all Champ + cent gear.
2) Buy a recruit PvP set for 500K.
3) Play some non rated warzone to get 417 warzone comms.
4) Spend saved warzone comms (max 1333 after being robbed in the merc. comms conversion) + 417 = 1750 on a BM mainhand weapon.
5) Play non rated warsones for BM gear.
6) a month later, start playing rated warzones to replace BM gear for war hero gear

Thats just great....

oh because the people who already have their BM gear, just rolled out of bed with a fresh 50 and it was just handed to them. Get real man, this is a MMO, which mean you have to jump threw hoop after hoop to get the best gear.

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V-Serp
04.08.2012 , 12:29 AM | #176
I don't know why Bioware refuses to just remove the valor cap by level and to allow stacking and buying gear in advance. There would be no QQ if while leveling your Valor rises normally and you can buy and stack the BM boxes and open them. Sure you can't wear them until level 50, but you'd have them so it wouldn't be a big deal.

In the current stupid system you can't pre-plan. The bags are unique, there is a pathetic comm limit of 1k, you can't even buy the BM tokens at all, and your valor only goes up to your current level.

This is a system purposely designed to punish the player. It is one thing if players neglect PVP and just don't put in the effort at all, and then when they're at 50 they have a lot of work to do. It is another thing where people are PVPing throughout their leveling experience but the system hinders them anyway.

The solution is simple IF Bioware wanted to give players a fair chance. But they don't, they want people to waste time and think that will lead to re-subbing, when in fact it would imo encourage dropped subs.

All they have to do is what I put above. Allow stacking and buying of gear in advance, uncap the valor, and increase the com limit (in beta it was 9999 before it was gimped so you could just PVP a lot and go about your questing, and then buy an entire set of gear at one time, you could also buy as many bags as you wanted when they threw that in, except they started with the champ bag being unique, and people told them that was stupid even in beta).

I will probably unsub the second I hit 50, especially if opening 6 champ bags doesn't make me competitive at the start.

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kronomandar
04.08.2012 , 01:02 AM | #177
Quote: Originally Posted by V-Serp View Post
I don't know why Bioware refuses to just remove the valor cap by level and to allow stacking and buying gear in advance. There would be no QQ if while leveling your Valor rises normally and you can buy and stack the BM boxes and open them. Sure you can't wear them until level 50, but you'd have them so it wouldn't be a big deal.

In the current stupid system you can't pre-plan. The bags are unique, there is a pathetic comm limit of 1k, you can't even buy the BM tokens at all, and your valor only goes up to your current level.

This is a system purposely designed to punish the player. It is one thing if players neglect PVP and just don't put in the effort at all, and then when they're at 50 they have a lot of work to do. It is another thing where people are PVPing throughout their leveling experience but the system hinders them anyway.

The solution is simple IF Bioware wanted to give players a fair chance. But they don't, they want people to waste time and think that will lead to re-subbing, when in fact it would imo encourage dropped subs.

All they have to do is what I put above. Allow stacking and buying of gear in advance, uncap the valor, and increase the com limit (in beta it was 9999 before it was gimped so you could just PVP a lot and go about your questing, and then buy an entire set of gear at one time, you could also buy as many bags as you wanted when they threw that in, except they started with the champ bag being unique, and people told them that was stupid even in beta).

I will probably unsub the second I hit 50, especially if opening 6 champ bags doesn't make me competitive at the start.
BM comms can be bought.
one possible reason they dont want players to gear up for 50 pvp while lower levels is to give you a chance to learn to play lvl 50 warzones once you get there.
lowbie pvp does not prepare you sufficiently to play with the big boys.

you want to be competetive the instant you hit 50, but those already there dont want to have to carry you while you learn what you now need to do and unlearn everything you've been doing wrong up till now.

trust me on this, when a fresh 50 tries to play in a warzone, its noticable, and not just from the poor gear.

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DarthBeelzebub
04.08.2012 , 02:10 AM | #178
this is great news the way it should be done about time they do something right

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lemur_cro
04.08.2012 , 05:55 AM | #179
i wish gear would be same just like in GW, every player has same gear, elite/unique skins are nice but just for showoff, and games are won by players, tactic, skills, reactions, coordiantion, not here, all is about gear and grind ...

and ye i got 2 v60+ characters, and one l50 alt that waits for 1.2 to just in pvp

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teambff
04.08.2012 , 06:05 AM | #180
Quote: Originally Posted by Proppa View Post
It really is amazing, how Bioware keep going down and down. How can you ADD Ranked Warzones but still allow such a big difference in gear? Anyone else fail to understand why they don't want to make PvP Competative?
agreed, dunno what they're thinking.
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