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The question of the month: Will you keep your subscription up? and why?

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The question of the month: Will you keep your subscription up? and why?

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AGBen
04.07.2012 , 09:29 PM | #431
Im burnt out on this game. Seems like the same stuff over and over again everyday.
A great suggestion for world PvP!!
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JeramieCrowe
04.07.2012 , 09:32 PM | #432
Quote: Originally Posted by Gungan View Post
Aethetics != graphics.
OMG, are you serious?! That's so wrong, I don't even know where to start. If you look at the actual graphics engine mechanics that being employed, you'll see that TOR is using technology that TERA is not.

What you're referring to is "art style". If you don't like TOR's art style, I really don't blame you. But don't try to say that it's TOR's "graphics" that is lacking because it's not. Graphics is mechanics and engine. That's it. Not aesthetics and art style.
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JeramieCrowe
04.07.2012 , 09:35 PM | #433
Quote: Originally Posted by Brundhila View Post
Wrong. Its called progression, technology and innovation. Based on what your saying someone today can release a game exactly like Everquest and be fine, because well you dont want to have to pay more right? Let's see how well that game does.

As far as Rift goes, true it didnt have a decent LFG, but you had flexible specs, a good AH and properly leveled pvp action. It took some innovation and implemented it at launch UNLIKE Swotor.

Like I said, you like the game? Goodie for you. For some of us its lacking horribly in basic MMO design of the current times.
Interesting how you completely dodge the fact that TOR has 8 unique class storylines. Don't want storyline? Then, in the immortal words of Georg Zoeller:

Quote: Originally Posted by GeorgZoeller
If you’re really allergic to story, exposure to this game could very well result in an anaphylactic reaction for you.
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Gungan
04.07.2012 , 09:36 PM | #434
Quote: Originally Posted by JeramieCrowe View Post
OMG, are you serious?! That's so wrong, I don't even know where to start. If you look at the actual graphics engine mechanics that being employed, you'll see that TOR is using technology that TERA is not.

What you're referring to is "art style". If you don't like TOR's art style, I really don't blame you. But don't try to say that it's TOR's "graphics" that is lacking because it's not. Graphics is mechanics and engine. That's it. Not aesthetics and art style.
Apparently you don't know the meaning of the != symbol. Also, please show me where SWTOR uses specular lighting on character and boss models.

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Gungan
04.07.2012 , 09:38 PM | #435
Quote: Originally Posted by JeramieCrowe View Post
Interesting how you completely dodge the fact that TOR has 8 unique class storylines. Don't want storyline? Then, in the immortal words of Georg Zoeller:
That might be true if the class story constituted anywhere near the bulk of the levelling experience.

If you think 5 unique quests per class per planet is unique and engaging enough to keep rerolling alts, then I have some snake oil I'd like to sell you over here.

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JeramieCrowe
04.07.2012 , 09:39 PM | #436
Quote: Originally Posted by Gungan View Post
I can render 50 people and their vendor pets in the main city in TERA no problem, at a higher frame rate than SWTOR with 1 or 2 people in line of sight on the fleet. Both games at max settings.

Bad engine and no optimization are not an excuse.
Okay. I have a 250GTS vid card, an Intel Duo, and 8GB of RAM, and I can render close to 50 people, (32+, as there were 2 full Ops groups and then some) and the worst FPS I had was 24FPS. I'm seeing a stead 60FPS everywhere else, and only because I have VSYNC enabled, or the FPS would be higher.

If you can't play the game with 24 FPS fully loaded, it's not SWTOR's fault. If I can do it with old hardware, there's no excuse for anyone else.
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Brundhila
04.07.2012 , 09:39 PM | #437
Quote: Originally Posted by JeramieCrowe View Post
Interesting how you completely dodge the fact that TOR has 8 unique class storylines. Don't want storyline? Then, in the immortal words of Georg Zoeller:
Who said I didnt like the story aspects of the game? Grab>straw. Fail.
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Gungan
04.07.2012 , 09:42 PM | #438
Quote: Originally Posted by JeramieCrowe View Post
Okay. I have a 250GTS vid card, an Intel Duo, and 8GB of RAM, and I can render close to 50 people, (32+, as there were 2 full Ops groups and then some) and the worst FPS I had was 24FPS. I'm seeing a stead 60FPS everywhere else, and only because I have VSYNC enabled, or the FPS would be higher.

If you can't play the game with 24 FPS fully loaded, it's not SWTOR's fault. If I can do it with old hardware, there's no excuse for anyone else.
You're on low to medium settings. That's the rig I just upgraded from, except I had a 260 GTX. Trying to run on high settings I would drop below 20 in hutball.

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JeramieCrowe
04.07.2012 , 09:44 PM | #439
Quote: Originally Posted by Gungan View Post
That might be true if the class story constituted anywhere near the bulk of the levelling experience.
Are you kidding me??!! Go to WoW. Level a Horde Hunter. Then level a Horde Warrior. How different do you think the leveling experience will be? Not even close to 2% difference. Hell, try that in ANY MMO. TOR offers more uniqueness in leveling alts than ANY OTHER MMO TO DATE, and you're gonna fault them for the 40% that's similar?

Give me a freaking break. People are insanely and unrealistically picky these days. Sheesh...

Quote: Originally Posted by Gungan View Post
If you think 5 unique quests per class per planet is unique enough to keep rerolling alts, then I have some snake oil I'd like to sell you over here.
I've played KotOR 12 times. I've played KotOR2 8 times. I've played Mass Effect 4 times, currently involved with my 5th time. I've played Mass Effect2 twice, will start my third time with my current Mass Effect character.

Do I think that playing 40% faction quests over again to experience an all new 60% class quest too much repeated content?

Not only NO, but HELL NO.
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JeramieCrowe
04.07.2012 , 09:46 PM | #440
Quote: Originally Posted by Brundhila View Post
Who said I didnt like the story aspects of the game? Grab>straw. Fail.
You said "you like the the game". Well, hell, excuse me for thinking that story was part of "the game"....

I'm just tired of people confusing the art style with graphics mechanics. The actual graphics mechanics, the specular lighting, the shadows, the reflective elements, etc. are not only on par with the latest MMO, but better.

It's usually the art style people don't like. If you don't like that, please don't bash the graphics because that's incorrect.

Also, you quoted me. I was talking mainly about the storylines.
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