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No Cross Realm LFG tool please!

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DarthKhaos
04.06.2012 , 09:49 PM | #491
Quote: Originally Posted by Myria_K View Post
Same. BC-Era I alternated between my bear tank and holy priestess, so I didn't really need to keep tanks or healers on my list -- would get swamped the second I logged. My "friends" list was filled with DPSers who didn't stand in fire and were good at CCing -- at the time a more important consideration than actual DPS output. Most of them I knew nothing about, they were just on the list because in my position getting another healer or tank was easy, but getting three DPS who wouldn't turn a run into an un-fun headache could be a nightmare.

Post-LFD my friends list was populated by, well, friends. People I did know something about and weren't just useful names to know in-game.
Guess we've had different experiences. For me those tanks and healers I got to know. When I logged in I said hi, we chatted about stuff in game and out of game. They were not JUST a good tank or healer to me. They were people and them being a good player was the common ground that our friendship started on.
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Esproc
04.06.2012 , 10:04 PM | #492
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ferroz
03.28.2012 , 12:44 PM
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DigitalPrime: How does this help open world populations - oh thats right. it dosent.
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ferroz: Why doesn't it? Several solutions related to cross server to that particular issue have been discussed. Maybe you should try and keep up, rather than spouting off false assertions like this, eh?
But it doesn't help the server population. That leaves the other people on the (your) server who are leveling SOL and you don't care, because you have said you are not there for, and do not like, community. So you get what you want, and leave the rest fighting what you claim to have fought against, a chance at "all of the content in the game".
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DigitalPrime: Which is a major problem in this game.
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ferroz: No, it's a pretty minor problem in the game; that's why we haven't seen more than a couple people complaining about it in the dozens of threads on this subject. The open world content is 95% designed to be soloed, and much of the stuff that's designed for 2 or 4 people can also be soloed.
You are blind to the posts about not doing the Heroics, but blinders and self interest have a way of doing that.
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DigitalPrime: Server merges fix both of these issues!
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ferroz: No, as I pointed out, this is nothing but speculation, and it's only a temporary fix.
Server Mergers have worked and people who have transferred have reported enjoying the content on the higher populated servers. It also addresses the issues of people who are leveling and want to do the Heroics.
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Esproc
04.06.2012 , 10:08 PM | #493
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ConradLionhart
03.31.2012 , 07:05 AM

I'm sorry too. I wish that I was omnipotent and are aware of the wants and needs of every single player in the game like you are.
Single server LFG solves the grouping problem...on some servers that have a decent population, during primetime.
Servers with low populations (most of them) are not going to see much of an improvement.
The so called community you care about simply doesn't exist on a ton of servers because everyone either quit or rerolled to Fatman.
The only group finder that matters is the one at level 50, where you need people for dailies, group missions, flashpoints and operations.
Lower level content can be soloed once you out level them.
How do you know it won't solve anything? I don't believe that there are not at least 4 level 50s on your server. If all 4 of you want to do something, surely it is just a matter of grouping up.
To show from the above post statement that I have "proof" from a same faction representatives posting.
This posting clearly say's ME, and not to any who are leveling, just me and my 50's should get entitlements to content. The rest of the people on the server, "community", are S O L.
This is the X-Server conditioning that has been touted as ruining community, the people around you on the same server, and fallen into the entitlement mindset of what they deserve, even at the expense of others, for self gratification and fulfilling only their selfish desire.
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Esproc
04.06.2012 , 10:10 PM | #494
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Valkirus
03.28.2012 , 04:17 PM
It would'nt fix the issue for you. But for many of us..it would. You want a high population server and to develope a community on it which you can enjoy being around. Nothing wrong with that and you can still do that with a cross server LFG tool. But for those who wish to stay on a low pop server or donot care about the community as such ( I do with my friends and the guild I am in , but apart from that...yeah..I could'nt careless how it is on my server. ) A cross server LFG tool would benefit them greatly and help to keep them as happy paying customers.
Your reasoning for X-Server LFG is pure selfish reason, not wanting anything to do with any other people at all, or your friends if they are on, but everyone else can take a jump. Maybe you should try a console game, or shuffleboard if you find a friend. Because it does not give any backing to a real reason for a X-Server LFG.
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Esproc
04.06.2012 , 10:12 PM | #495
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chaosdefined
03.27.2012 , 01:11 PM
Server merges are a short term fix. We have given plenty of facts as to how Cross Server LFD tools have improved gameplay and increased the games performance.
No to Server Mergers, but Yes to a X-Server LFG tool, with no proof of any "improved game play" nor of "increased game performance" which is ludicrous as the game played the same, my computer has never experienced any increase and Stormwind never improved either.

Server Mergers can help, if they were to be implemented.

I still Like Chaos' idea of more going to a shard and singular "server".
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Valkirus
04.06.2012 , 10:16 PM | #496
Quote: Originally Posted by DarthKhaos View Post
Guess we've had different experiences. For me those tanks and healers I got to know. When I logged in I said hi, we chatted about stuff in game and out of game. They were not JUST a good tank or healer to me. They were people and them being a good player was the common ground that our friendship started on.
I still do that today with my guildies in WoW and we all use the cross server LFG tool when we need to fill a spot and every week on each char for the Looking for Raid runs. Working great for us and our guild has grown. From about 150 members at the end of WOTLK, to 233 now.
Trust is something which is earned.

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Valkirus
04.06.2012 , 10:24 PM | #497
Quote: Originally Posted by Esproc View Post
Your reasoning for X-Server LFG is pure selfish reason, not wanting anything to do with any other people at all, or your friends if they are on, but everyone else can take a jump. Maybe you should try a console game, or shuffleboard if you find a friend. Because it does not give any backing to a real reason for a X-Server LFG.
Come on now....did I say I did not care at all about anyone? I said I did care about my friends...guildies and yeah...those who wish to be jerks..I never want to run with them. Reason they make my ignore list. :P And donot tell me what to play please. Have I told you..."must use the cross server tool or quit!!"'? Now...who is really being selfish and only wanting what they want?
Trust is something which is earned.

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Antares_Navaar
04.06.2012 , 11:30 PM | #498
The problem is that some of us don't like to play on those nasty Fatman servers, but because the population is so low, it's hard to find a group. Honestly, in WoW, this was stupid, but in SWTOR, this would be a great addition that would grab the attention of many players, including me. Getting groups together is cool and all, but when the instance is right downstairs in the fleet I've been standing around in for an hour straight spamming 'LF Tank+Heals then G2G', I clap my heels together and wish, wish hard as I can for the very feature you are going against now.
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Sphinxes
04.07.2012 , 12:33 AM | #499
Quote: Originally Posted by DarthKhaos View Post
Guess we've had different experiences. For me those tanks and healers I got to know. When I logged in I said hi, we chatted about stuff in game and out of game. They were not JUST a good tank or healer to me. They were people and them being a good player was the common ground that our friendship started on.
As a healer I only paid attention to the tanks on my server - the DPS players just didn't matter all that much unless they were from my guild or a real life friend. After cross-server it didn't take more than a few really bad pug runs for me to decide to only heal for guildies and never try a pug again.

I could stand cross-server if the pool pf players was kept low enough for ignore to be effective - say link 3 servers together into a player pool.
Have heals - Will travel

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woutersje
04.07.2012 , 05:07 AM | #500
all i could say is: i left swtor for not having the LFG-tool.
i'm not going to lvl up to 50 to just solo the FPs afterwards without all the fun you get when doing it in a group.

"LFG-tool, destroys the community"

that is total bs!
if you were to be in a group and would want to talk, then talk!
think there is any harm done to start a conversation?
if you recruit in chat and don't want to talk, your group will end the same as you think it would with LFG
"hey > hey > let's go > ok > you know tacts? > yeah, done it before > alright > *everyone is silent till the end* > wow good run! > yeah you too > see you!.

i'm so eager to wait 2 hours instead of 2 minutes for such conversations!

implement the tool already... -_-