No Cross Realm LFG tool please!

No, it's indicative of the fact that if you don't want to use it, you don't have to...

Oh, I'm concerned about long term negative effects on the game.

Cross server lfg doesn't have those though.

Fixed that for you.

The game was already like that before 3.2... just substitute "to finish your daily heroic as fast as possible" for "for as many badges as one could attain in as little time as possible"


Of my last 400 queues as a dps, none of them were longer than 20 minutes (edit, I'd say 15, but I think I did have an 18 minute queue for a troll dungeon once, when I was home sick and queuing at ~10 am server time); most of them were in the 7-10 minute range or less. It fixes plenty.

older dungeons were even faster than the current dungeons... by FAR. I had several days on one of my alts where I couldn't kill more than 1 or 2 mobs before my queue popped again. I had a kill 10 quest that was done in short bursts between 6 or 7 dungeons. I finally skipped a queue so that I could finish it.

so you must be thinking of some game other than wow...

Emphasis added.

That isn't the case anymore. DPS queues for endgame content these days run around 20 mins off peak, they are even shorter for leveling content. With SWTOR, I gave up looking for groups and just grind out quests solo.

I tried using the tool provided, flagged myself when I logged in and monitored it as I played though it's tough since it is blocks most of the screen. I joined the custom lfg channel and tried to keep an eye on that. I did just about everything I could do other than beg 50s in my guild to run me through, or send random whispers, neither of which I will do. One trivializes content when members out level/gear it, and the other pissed me off when I played my shadow priest and I would get dozens of tells asking for a healer to where I ignored more people for that than I ever did through LFD.

There are aspects of BC that I wish would come back, raid attunements in particular. But LFD to me is a much better system than what was in place back then. Personally, I became more engaged in the game when I knew that I could log on, queue up, and get into a dungeon. Note that I didn't say guaranteed to complete, guaranteed to get in. I want difficult content, but I want easy access to it when it comes to flash points, operations are a different animal.

Without a queue, I could get lucky log on and get a group as soon as the game loads, or I can spend all night missing people in the lfg window or because we don't see each other's posts in General/Trade/LFG for one reason or another, e.g., in a dialog, on different planets/fleet, etc.

Are FPs really the best way to meet and socialize with others on the server anyway? You're locked into interaction with just 3 other people, in an instance, for an extended period of time. Personally, I don't want to spend that entire time chatting and getting to know one another, I want to kill things quickly and get it done. The social aspect of this game would be better served by introducing server wide events, that encourage spontaneous groups of all levels, without strict role requirements. FPs certainly aren't that. Or something as simple as opening server specific forums for players to organize events.

I'm getting off topic a bit, I guess that I just challenge this idea that restricting access to FPs is the best way to build server community, and I feel they might be better served by implementing new systems to get people off of fleet and grouping up out on the planets and developing social bonds in that way. To me it seems like things are a bit flipped right now and it's frustrating to where I think I may have to move on before hitting 50.

Cross realm LFG Finder would make things alot easier for those looking to through content and geared quicker. To althoughs saying that a cross group finder would ruin the game your nothing but casual gamers anyway.

Before LFD in WoW:
My friends list was full of tanks and healers that I would have to ask for help every time that one wasn't available in guild. Not necessarily good ones since the really good ones were in elite guilds, and I was not (am not), my list just had warm bodies that were specced and geared right.

After LFD in WoW:
My friends list is full of friendly people that I met in game that I chat with about any number of things, and may not ever regularly group with, they are simply friends.

I prefer the list that I have now, especially since I no longer have to remember whether all the druids and paladins were tanks or healers, and hope that they remembered my shadow priest from that one run a few weeks ago.

Someone who is new and is more interested in finding new tanks/healers than in completing stuff quickly can still ask in chat for people to queue up with. They probably won't get a full group, but they might get 1 more person to queue with. It's actually beneficial for them to do so because queuing up with more people in the group decreases the time to queue. Nothing about a cross-server LFG prevents that from happening.

For example, I was levelling on my juggernaut and did a couple of quests with a guy I met on Hoth. I was a tank and he was a healer. When we finished, we both kinda wanted to run a FP to get a bit of gear. We checked the LFG tool, nobody at our level anywhere on the server. We asked in general chat, nobody responded. If there had been a cross-server LFG, we'd easily just queue up and get more people from other servers added to run foundry or whatever. A cross-server LFG wouldnt have hurt my ability to make friends with that guy or see how he played in a FP at all.

Oh god yeah. I remember having to keep a specific list of healers/tanks and having to beg them every time I wanted to do a heroic on my hunter. **** was not fun. Nor was getting random whispers from some guy I didn't remember or care about seconds after I logged in on my paladin tank. Especially when I have to let the poor guy down cause I just logged in to check the AH or move stuff to a bank alt.

What long term negative effect? There isn't one. You still didn't give a single example of even one.

Same. BC-Era I alternated between my bear tank and holy priestess, so I didn't really need to keep tanks or healers on my list -- would get swamped the second I logged. My "friends" list was filled with DPSers who didn't stand in fire and were good at CCing -- at the time a more important consideration than actual DPS output. Most of them I knew nothing about, they were just on the list because in my position getting another healer or tank was easy, but getting three DPS who wouldn't turn a run into an un-fun headache could be a nightmare.

Post-LFD my friends list was populated by, well, friends. People I did know something about and weren't just useful names to know in-game.