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why be a pure DPS when DPS tanks do more damage

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why be a pure DPS when DPS tanks do more damage

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Varicite
04.05.2012 , 01:02 PM | #41
Quote: Originally Posted by da_krall View Post
Strangely the only DPS classes worth a damn in PvP has as good suvivbility as a tank.

Basically if you want to pvp; play a healer, any tank class or a mara.
So basically, what you're saying is to be anything other than Agent/Smuggler or Sorc/Sage dps. lol.
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UnderatedNoob
04.05.2012 , 01:15 PM | #42
Quote: Originally Posted by Vase View Post
why be a pure DPS when DPS tanks do more damage
SS or it didn't happen.

I've never seen a guardian, vanguard or shadow out dps me. While every other class has been able to do it at some point or another.
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Ryotknife
04.05.2012 , 01:28 PM | #43
?

my dps/tank hybrid pt (as in a spec that goes halfway down the tanking tree and halfway down the dps tree) does easily 30% less dps than full pyro, so im pretty sure pts are exempt from this "tanks outdpsing dpsers"

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Varicite
04.05.2012 , 01:29 PM | #44
Quote: Originally Posted by Ryotknife View Post
?

my dps/tank hybrid pt (as in a spec that goes halfway down the tanking tree and halfway down the dps tree) does easily 30% less dps than full pyro, so im pretty sure pts are exempt from this "tanks outdpsing dpsers"
People like the OP think that total damage done at the end of a match is the same thing as dps.

It's still not.
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Ryotknife
04.05.2012 , 01:32 PM | #45
Quote: Originally Posted by Varicite View Post
People like the OP think that total damage done at the end of a match is the same thing as dps.

It's still not.
true, damage done is vastly different from dps.

in pve, damage done is generally more important, but useless as a tool to evaluate your performance.

course thats a whole other can of worms when talking about damage done and dps in either pve or pvp.

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AngryBuddhist
04.05.2012 , 02:00 PM | #46
Quote: Originally Posted by Varicite View Post
Because they don't actually do more damage per fight.

And since you think that anyone trying to explain reality to you is a troll, I won't bother.

Damage numbers on the scoreboard don't mean jack.

So you argument is the only factual numbers available for an analysis don't mean anything?

Brilliant!

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Fredcat
04.05.2012 , 02:06 PM | #47
Quote: Originally Posted by Arkerus View Post
Ah. So another "dps shouldn't be able to kill anything" proponent.

Good idea Chuck.
No, you need to learn to focus fire. Your not supposed to be able to solo a guarded healer. This is working as intended.

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AngryBuddhist
04.05.2012 , 02:18 PM | #48
Quote: Originally Posted by Varicite View Post
People like the OP think that total damage done at the end of a match is the same thing as dps.

It's still not.
Damage per second might not equal Damage per match, but tank/dps hybrids consistently out DPSing pure DPs classes is a valid argument.

Anyone playing pure DPS is playing at a disadvantage.

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Stratoforce
04.05.2012 , 02:26 PM | #49
Pyrotechs are not tanks. And I am talking about pure ones. None of this hybrid business.
Until next patch, my pyro does average 400k-600k a warzone. Which is way more than any tank. Then again, very few people on my server seem to be good DPS.

The only other competition I have is another Pyro, an assassin, and a marauder.
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Varicite
04.05.2012 , 02:29 PM | #50
Quote: Originally Posted by AngryBuddhist View Post
Damage per second might not equal Damage per match, but tank/dps hybrids consistently out DPSing pure DPs classes is a valid argument.

Anyone playing pure DPS is playing at a disadvantage.
What you said makes no sense.

There is no tank in this game that can outdps a pure dps class.

Not Tankasins, not Powertechs, not Juggernauts. Not one.

Tankasins can have a high overall damage done at the end of a match, but this is nowhere near the same thing as "outdpsing a pure dps class".

That is just spamming weak AoE on multiple targets and not dying.


Quote: Originally Posted by AngryBuddhist View Post
So you argument is the only factual numbers available for an analysis don't mean anything?

Brilliant!
Your argument is to take a screenshot that doesn't even show all of the WZ stats themselves, let alone even begin to tell the whole story of what happened, and to take them WAY out of context in order to build a flawed-from-the-start argument about tanks doing insane damage.

Nothing about the OP's argument holds any water, because the "factual numbers" aren't being analyzed anywhere even approaching correctly.

In other words, stop bringing up numbers when you can't do math. The numbers are NOT in your favor.
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