When will there be a "SERVER MERGE?"

Well 30 people online in the fleet in the evenings, getting alot of 6v8 token loses in WZ's and leveling a alt on planets with alot of times you beeing the only one there, isnt exactly alive and kicking either.

Truth be told, it would be a reason for me to let my subscription run out and look for something else when it does.

Merge servers or make it possible to transfer between servers!

I'm thinking of stop playing the game because it sucks so hard to play with 20 ppl in one server! Group quests, PVP, Warzones = SUCKS right now because it's so hard to find ppl!

PLZ BIOWARE LISTEN TO US!!!!!!!

That was taken out of context.

Someone implied that "if the servers are so dead then the number of people that are affected by it must be a small percentage of the playerbase"

To which I responded that he must not be good at math. The numbers were taken mostly from here -

http://www.swtor.com/community/showt...350700&page=15

Byerley did a fairly decent job of explaining it. If you look back earlier in this thread, Notdonnareed had a fairly similar conclusion in regards to population caps as well.

350 appears to be the the bare minimum required for standard ranking on the server list. Where this number caps at is still speculation, but it is probably around 2000. 1800 was reported by others a few times.

Assuming that the heavy and full servers are at 2500 or more, and noting that there are only 5 or so out of the (last I heard) 200 or so other servers.

Even saying there are 10 good servers with an average population of 2500 or more between EU and US, that's only 25,000. The other 190 servers with an average of 500 (which includes the light servers with under 350, and the standard servers with 1800 or so, so 500 is the number I went with) comes out to be a bit short of 100,000.

Granted, the "standard" population servers with 1800 aren't experiencing the same problems as the ones with 350 or 500, so even if you wanted to go ahead and cut the number in half to account for the standard servers that aren't having the same issues, you are still looking at 50,000 people who are having issues vs 75,000 who aren't. That clearly isn't a small portion of the population

125,000 is roughly consistent with the fact that rarely, if ever, do MMO's have more then 10% of their player base playing. Which, when multiplied out, comes to a bit under 1.25 million subs (given that I rounded up slightly earlier). This number isn't too unrealistic either.



So yes, you can disagree/agree with my numbers but this is how I got them. I'm sure I'll be torn to shreds over something I missed.

you guys are talking about server merges?
Why don't we just roll a new toon on 1 server

Start all over again and go

While I agree that it sucks to start over you will be happier in the long run if you do.

I left behind a level 48 and a 36. I'm now 30 on a new server and had no regrets.

If server transfers/merges happen I will have my characters to go back too.

This is exactly what I did. I started my pub and imp characters on servers that eventually became light. I rerolled on two heavy pop servers under new ACs and I've been having a blast ever since. Once transfers are available, I'll transfer my old characters to my new servers and I'll be set.

Lets turn that around. Why should we? Why should i be forced to give up my characters?
Ive spend a great deal of time on getting them where they are now. The idea of having to do that again, playing the same class quests, getting all the skills maxxed and gathering funds as i have now. Is not really a motivating idea.

Sure if i would have just started the game and found the server dead after doing a few levels, it wouldnt be a big issue to roll a new one somewhere and start again.
But i started at launch, then atleast my server had a "heavy" population, i even selected one with a high pop so i could play in a big community. But after the free month subs ended the population took a nose dive to beeing on the high curve of low pop. And since then the numbers slowly but steadily dropped to beeing what they are at the moment. Pretty much a ghosttown around noon and nights, even weekends. The only timesloth you can hope to get something done is in the evenings.

Is it that weird to expect to some kind leniency from a provider if the service beeing payed for is lacking? I am a paying costumer afterall.

If your internet service provider was giving you a terrible connection issues, and there response would be: "Well, just move to another city our service there is brilliant." What would you do? Move? Or find another provider?

Just to give a time line idea, Rift offered server xfer/mergers/consolidations at the end of June last year. That would of been the games fifth month of being live. swtor is currently 3.5 months old from its decermber 21st ish release date. do i expect them to offer it at the same time as rift, no, but when 1.2 comes out and people return, whether its alot or a little, bioware will have the data to make a decision on whether its needed.

People that are saying to reroll are idiots. People dont want to start it all over again, they shouldnt even have to.

Transfers will not fix the problem, the problem will still be there and that problem is TOO MANY DAMN SERVERS. People will just flock to one of the 5 high pop servers with transfers.

What we need are merges simple as that. I dont give a crap about PR or that kind of stuff. People are quitting cause most servers are empty. Where in peak times you wont past 50 ppl on fleet, where pvp queues take a hour to get in a match only for that match to end early, where raiding guilds barely can keep up with the amount of people quitting. We need merges. Every server at peak time should average 200-400 people on fleet, where pvp queuues are no longer than 5 mins tops, where you actually can do heroics and encounter ppl while leveling.

EVERY SERVER NEEDS TO BE LIKE THE FATMAN!!!

Bioware wake the f up. Your game is failing and if you dont merge your servers soon your game will end up like another Warhammer.
Diablo 3 and Guild Wars 2 are around the corner and peoples patience are running out.

Also just to add RIFT has 16 us servers. around launch they deffinatly had alot more then that. Not to compair apples to oranges but there is nothing wrong with merging servers. the big question is how many accounts can fit on one of biowares servers. right now it just may not be possible.