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No Cross Realm LFG tool please!

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Reevax
04.05.2012 , 02:45 AM | #171
Quote: Originally Posted by Xeraze View Post
I used the lfg tool in wow to level my characters insanely fast and I liked it yes, but think..when you have this option in SWTOR, aren't you going to be bored even faster? Unless they have the same heroic reward daily acheivs like wow does there's no real need for one. They need to work on the foundation first not some super leveling tool. Free transfers would solve most your crying.
You can level much faster via question in WoW

Having more access to the games content is only good, there is no downside.

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chaosdefined
04.05.2012 , 02:46 AM | #172
Quote: Originally Posted by ConradLionhart View Post
The idea that the devs will take "BS" talking points in order to make a single server dungeon finder is frankly, absurd. You're implying the devs deliberately want to sabotage their game.

No valid reason? I have already linked the youtube video where Gabe has explained that "random AFK dude" won't be so afk because that dude has to watch his behavior.

12:05 onwards
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AEYp0pZd2ag

That is one valid reason. Pretty sure more people applauded SINGLE-SERVER group finder than the number of people who want cross-server posting in these threads. I.e., you are just a vocal minority.

Numerous people like myself have already explained the number of bad behavior that we encountered after cross-server was implemented. If you choose not to listen to them, that's your problem. Valid reasons have been posted, you just don't listen to anyone but yourself. Fortunately the devs are not like that.
You keep linking that video as if it were defining proof or something. It has no relevance to the discussion. All it shows is a small amount of players from the game that were hand picked by Bioware themselves cheering like fanboys. They probably would have cheered if BW showed a video of lightsaber weilding Pandas for a future patch too.

There is no valid reason against it.
All this talk of community is hilarious though. You go on about how horrible players are from other servers then have the nerve to say you're concerned about protecting community.

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navarh
04.05.2012 , 02:46 AM | #173
Quote: Originally Posted by Reevax View Post
Your solution is just plain stupid.
no
human vanguard -> tauren warrior

epic win, just saying

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ConradLionhart
04.05.2012 , 02:47 AM | #174
Quote: Originally Posted by navarh View Post
last time i checked population on fatman it was still laughable for me

feel fre to show us current number of lvl50 on that supposedly "heavy populated server"
I'm too busy playing on Dalborra to do that. Maybe you'd like to do that for us. Be sure to also point out the number of level 85s on a WoW server while you're at it.

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Xeraze
04.05.2012 , 02:49 AM | #175
Quote: Originally Posted by Reevax View Post
You can level much faster via question in WoW

Having more access to the games content is only good, there is no downside.
Idk man, I haven't played wow in ages they prob have epic mounts at level 1 now so you may have a point but it still would be useless in SWTOR at this point. They need to address more important things first, like making basic movement and combat more fluid.

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Kucerakov
04.05.2012 , 02:50 AM | #176
Quote: Originally Posted by ConradLionhart View Post
The idea that the devs will take "BS" talking points in order to make a single server dungeon finder is frankly, absurd. You're implying the devs deliberately want to sabotage their game.

No valid reason? I have already linked the youtube video where Gabe has explained that "random AFK dude" won't be so afk because that dude has to watch his behavior.

12:05 onwards
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AEYp0pZd2ag

That is one valid reason. Pretty sure more people applauded SINGLE-SERVER group finder than the number of people who want cross-server posting in these threads. I.e., you are just a vocal minority.

Numerous people like myself have already explained the number of bad behavior that we encountered after cross-server was implemented. If you choose not to listen to them, that's your problem. Valid reasons have been posted, you just don't listen to anyone but yourself. Fortunately the devs are not like that.
He said VALID reason. The deterioration of community is a straw man crafted out of whole cloth. If the devs believe that they are morons. Played WoW for years. There was no significant difference in community after lfg was added. Anyone who says differently has invented the scenario in their minds and added details to make themselves believe it, or they are lying. Either that or they are one of the ******* kids they complain about, and want people on their server FORCED to play with them, with no other option.

The community claims are just not true. It isnot really possible to have more mmo experience than I have, and the community argument simply does not hold water. Period.

People from high pop servers have no problem finding groups, so the same server lfg tool will not help them. Low pop servers will not be helped either. So do you assume all of the vocal people with grouping problems, not being helped at all by the same server lfg, will just shut up after 1.3, being that their situation will be unimproved? No, they will leave the game.

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Reevax
04.05.2012 , 02:50 AM | #177
Quote: Originally Posted by ConradLionhart View Post
I'm too busy playing on Dalborra to do that. Maybe you'd like to do that for us. Be sure to also point out the number of level 85s on a WoW server while you're at it.
Right so because you can get groups you don't care about anyone else.

1. People can get groups for whatever reason so they don't care

2. People don't run FPs or OPs so they don't care.

LFD would not impact you, please move along.

My theory is pretty solid.

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ConradLionhart
04.05.2012 , 02:52 AM | #178
Quote: Originally Posted by chaosdefined View Post
You keep linking that video as if it were defining proof or something. It has no relevance to the discussion. All it shows is a small amount of players from the game that were hand picked by Bioware themselves cheering like fanboys. They probably would have cheered if BW showed a video of lightsaber weilding Pandas for a future patch too.

There is no valid reason against it.
All this talk of community is hilarious though. You go on about how horrible players are from other servers then have the nerve to say you're concerned about protecting community.
It is proof, it shows that many people don't want cross-server group finder. They specifically cheered at the single-server part that Gabe said. He didn't even pause for dramatic effect.

All those "small amount of players" is still more than the number of people like yourself arguing for a cross-server group finder. They are also guild leaders of guilds, who manage other gamers and ensure that they have a great time playing the game and remaining subbed. And if Bioware has to choose between them or you, pretty sure they would choose those "guild leader fan boys". Welcome to democracy.

Sorry, calling them fan-boys does not nullify the fact that I have shown more people who prefer single-server group finder. But you can call people who disagree with you fanboys all you want.

Valid reason has been linked for you, to your faces many times now. Again, if you choose not to listen to anyone but yourself, doesn't make the reason any less valid.

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Reevax
04.05.2012 , 02:54 AM | #179
Quote: Originally Posted by ConradLionhart View Post
It is proof, it shows that many people don't want cross-server group finder. They specifically cheered at the single-server part that Gabe said. He didn't even pause for dramatic effect.

All those "small amount of players" is still more than the number of people like yourself arguing for a cross-server group finder. They are also guild leaders of guilds, who manage other gamers and ensure that they have a great time playing the game and remaining subbed. And if Bioware has to choose between them or you, pretty sure they would choose those "guild leader fan boys". Welcome to democracy.

Sorry, calling them fan-boys does not nullify the fact that I have shown more people who prefer single-server group finder. But you can call people who disagree with you fanboys all you want.

Valid reason has been linked for you, to your faces many times now. Again, if you choose not to listen to anyone but yourself, doesn't make the reason any less valid.
and yet you can not give a valid reason against it...

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chaosdefined
04.05.2012 , 02:56 AM | #180
Quote: Originally Posted by Reevax View Post
Right so because you can get groups you don't care about anyone else.

1. People can get groups for whatever reason so they don't care

2. People don't run FPs or OPs so they don't care.

LFD would not impact you, please move along.

My theory is pretty solid.
That's what it boils down to. The complete and utter lack of care for other players. Which makes their claims of concern over community and fear of anti-social behaviour highly ironic.

I'm on a highly populated server, and I'm in a really awesome guild. I can run a mid-level FP without much difficulty of finding a group in the Fleet. So to me, a cross-server LFG isn't something I need. However I am aware how many people are suffering because of this and not getting to experience the game they're paying for. Thus I am fighting for it to be implimented.

These people against it don't seem to realise they're causing more harm than good. Players are more likely to quit because they're frustrated at not getting to experience the content they're paying to see, rather than because a tool was implimented that they don't have to use..
None of us want subscriptions to drop, so how about we start using our heads on this one and realise what will keep people playing.

I've already linked actual evidence that WoW's numbers steadily increased over the course of a year after the Cross Server LFD came about, so you can not say that tool causes more people to leave.