Luke Skywalker vs Superman. Who wins?

Well. This is a compilation of Jedi power provided by ProfessorWalsh in my previous thread Jedis vs Ultramarines. Mr. ProfessorWalsh read over 200 SW novels, so he knows a lot.

Just replace ultramarines by Superman. Enjoy the reading.

The fall of the Ultramarines:

Preface:
I will be using the full might of the Jedi on this one. I'll be using the Force Powers as depicted by the novels and the EU. I will assume that the wizards on the side of the Ultramarines can stop any "direct" wipe out attack used by the Jedi like a thought bomb or simply mind-melting the entire Ultramarine forces.

Force Powers that the Ultramarines cannot counter however are three very big ones. The first being Battle Meditation and the second being Battle Meld and the third being Surrender to the Force.

Battle Meditation affects the probabilities and the morale of people in combat. It would be much weaker against the Ultramarines because the negative effects on the marines would be mitigated by their wizards. The morale of the Jedi, however, would be highly raised.

Another power that would swing this is the Battle Meld. This is when Jedi enter into a hive mind state. Jedi combat efficiency continues to raise the more people who are part of the meld. It gives the Jedi, who already possess an incredible battle sense, even more capabilities to detect to, and react to, threats. On top of this they can coordinate attacks and movements at the speed of thought.

Surrender to the Force is another nasty ability. This particular ability is the trump card. A Jedi who fully surrenders to the Force becomes virtually unstoppable. By this we mean all aspects of the Jedi are magnified to frightening levels. We have witnessed lone Jedi defeating entire armies of Yuuzahn Vong, including artillery and tanks, while in this state, personally killing over a thousand enemies in one skirmish.

Some of the feats demonstrated while in this state:

Superhuman speed. (Luke Skywalker was able to move so fast he appeared to vanish. We are talking DBZ levels of speed here.)
Superhuman strength. (In this state both Luke, Ganner, and Jacen Solo exhibited extreme amounts of strength.)
Superhuman stamina. (Jedi in this state do not become tired.)
Superhuman Force abilities. (Ganner was throwing tanks and huge statues in his state.)
Immunity to pain and injury. (Jedi who perform this technique are immune to any pain, or the effects of any injury for the duration. Examples include: Functioning rationally and without a drop in combat prowess after losing part of the brain, immunity to poison, fatal wounds such as pierced vital organs such as hearts and lungs, removed limbs, and more.)


So when the Ultramarines are attacked by battle melded Jedi who are moving so fast that they are theoretically operating faster than light who can predict attacks and can see/sense through every other Jedi there and the Jedi are bolstered by an immunity to fear and all other Jedi abilities are bolstered to insane levels there is nothing they can do. Ultramarines don't possess anything that lets them realistically fight enemies with those capabilities. They won't even have a range advantage because the Jedi can move and close the distance before the Marines can even register with their eyes where they are. On top of that, even if a Marine got lucky enough to blow half of a Jedi's head off we saw in Barv's case that losing half of his brain did not effect him until his body was literally vaped.

Edit:

To add - Luke Skywalker, using the Force, was capable of defeating a full on Celestial (a God) in single combat. I am pretty sure that a Force User could give a Psyker a run for their money. Note that Jedi can also instantaneously teleport (it is an Aiing Tii monk technique) over any distance and theoretically can travel backwards through time to witness events of the distant past.



Pretty impressive, right? So what you think now? Who wins ?

Technically yes, and I doubt that Batman would realize this if he causes Luke to go crazy darkside or something. But Batman could still exploit the FEAR without pushing Luke over the edge. It would probably take a full on murder to push Luke that far anyway and Batman wouldn't do that. (But he would make Luke think that he would.)

Yep. Luke gets scared, does something stupid, bam. Batman wins.

Lol, I stand corrected!

I think Superman wins. NEXT!

TL;DR
It is always better to get your point through with statements than produce a wall of text on an internet forum.

Sry, I'm sure it was a good read though.

Superman beats Luke every day and twice on Sunday. Superman would have Luke on the ground in a matter of seconds, and then proceed to throw him into orbit. End of story.

As for the side topic of Batman vs. Luke: Batman would win. We're talking about the guy who has to deal with a crazy clown bent on mayhem and destruction almost daily. Luke would get freaked out by Batman's suit and then get the beatdown. Batman FTW!

Superman would not beat Luke twice on Sunday, he was raised Christian and is probably in church. He instead opts to schedule THREE beatings on Saturday to compensate.

And then Kyle Katarn comes along and whups Superman up one side and down the other. Then he and Batman go to the bar and have some beers.

Why? Because the two most bad*** dudes in the multiverse are NOT going to fight. Look what happened to that one universe when Kyle beat Chuck.

Yeah, the strain was more than it could bear.

Who is Kyle Katarn?