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WildbloodX
04.04.2012 , 09:48 AM | #121
Quote: Originally Posted by Valkirus View Post
Well get ready for cross server PVP LFG and same server LFG for PVE. Like it or not.

I only hope they will eventually add cross server LFG for PVE. I logged in last night to see the population of the servers and there was a lot of low pop ones. Was only one server that was very high ( The Fatman ) and 2 other heavy ones. I cannot see a server side only LFG tool working well on most servers. Time will tell.
So are they adding this in 1.2 now, or do we have to wait through another few months of pain spamming LFG in general? BTW- LFG does NOT KILL A COMMUNITY, no more than it builds one. It does however make my play experience better when I want to run content with a pug group. Let alone helps me build friendships by having fun in a group with people I don't know.

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BrandonBM
04.04.2012 , 09:58 AM | #122
I played another MMO that at launch didn’t have any type of LFG system. At that time everyone was mostly at peace with it as we had not experienced anything to the contrary. I can say though that after this unnamed game implemented the LFG function it only became more fun for me as a more casual player it allowed me to partake in the more advanced “flashpoints” of the game.

Now, it’s difficult to swallow a game without an expansive LFG system as it seams I’m back to wasting a good chuck of my preciously few hours that I get to play TOR searching for a squad. Or worse yet skipping content during questing because I don’t want to waist the time it would take.

At the end of the day I just want to PLAY, so please Bio hurry up with the LFG system!
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04.04.2012 , 10:03 AM | #123
Quote: Originally Posted by Jederix View Post
#3 is exactly what most of these "it destroy's community" people want. They want a few guilds at the top of the food chain dictating what portion of the game their lowly serfs get to play in.

It has more to do with control than it does with community. LFG tool is needed; anything short of cross-server is pointless.
You honestly think the reason why we dont want x-server is elitism.

Even BW stated the reasons why they didnt want it in the first place. It has been stated many times in this thread and many others what x-server does. There is plus sides, which has been stated in here. and there is downsides. If community doesnt mean anything to you. so be it. Just dont go making up your own reasons up due to not understanding what an MMO is and does. Like i say, if this means nothing to you. so be it. just dont go making stuff up. kids do this to get what they want. unless the boot fits.

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Valkirus
04.04.2012 , 10:07 AM | #124
Quote: Originally Posted by WildbloodX View Post
So are they adding this in 1.2 now, or do we have to wait through another few months of pain spamming LFG in general? BTW- LFG does NOT KILL A COMMUNITY, no more than it builds one. It does however make my play experience better when I want to run content with a pug group. Let alone helps me build friendships by having fun in a group with people I don't know.
Not going to be in 1.2. Possible it will make it in the next update in 1.3.

And I agree with you a LFG tool does not kill a community. Even a cross server one does'nt from my experence. This is in reference to the community I really care about in the MMO's I have played, namely my friends, guildies and those I wish to make as friends.
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basonj
04.04.2012 , 10:14 AM | #125
Quote: Originally Posted by chaosdefined View Post
I'm not saying punish players, I'm simply saying do not offer any extra rewards for using the LFG than you would get for grouping via your Guild or Chat. So you still get all the rewards from the Daily and FP missions, just no extra badges/loot/etc for having used the group finder.

That way the game isn't giving away free loot and you hopefully avoid those types of players who want to faceroll their way through a FP as quick as possible in order to get their daily amount of badges.
This argument always come up. Saying that using a cross server LFG is "giving away free loot". Why is it free? I'm completing the flashpoint/raid just like you and your guild are doing. Why is it a bad thing for me to get the same rewards? Also, I like playing with players who want to finish FPs as fast as possible. Do you and your guildies go in to smell the flowers? I used the dungeon finder hundreds of times on WoW once it came out. I had one bad experience with one group. That one had a douchebag in it. The rest were fine, even if we couldn't complete the dungeon a couple times. Before the DF, I had many more bad experiences which were made even worse because it took an hour or two to get a group together.

I want a cross server LFG tool. I want to play flashpoints and see all the content without having to join a guild or make new "friends". The social aspect of MMOs is vastly over rated as far as I'm concerned. Anyone who remembers Barrens Chat from WoW knows that MMO communities are usually filled with people you don't really want to know in the first place.
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ferroz
04.04.2012 , 10:22 AM | #126
Quote: Originally Posted by PalawaJoko View Post
How would LFG tool destroy a community?
It doesn't...

It's just a meaningless phrase that people use because they can't come up with a real argument against it. The reason that you don't get the logic behind it is that there isn't any logic behind it.

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Valkirus
04.04.2012 , 10:22 AM | #127
Quote: Originally Posted by basonj View Post
This argument always come up. Saying that using a cross server LFG is "giving away free loot". Why is it free? I'm completing the flashpoint/raid just like you and your guild are doing. Why is it a bad thing for me to get the same rewards? Also, I like playing with players who want to finish FPs as fast as possible. Do you and your guildies go in to smell the flowers? I used the dungeon finder hundreds of times on WoW once it came out. I had one bad experience with one group. That one had a douchebag in it. The rest were fine, even if we couldn't complete the dungeon a couple times. Before the DF, I had many more bad experiences which were made even worse because it took an hour or two to get a group together.

I want a cross server LFG tool. I want to play flashpoints and see all the content without having to join a guild or make new "friends". The social aspect of MMOs is vastly over rated as far as I'm concerned. Anyone who remembers Barrens Chat from WoW knows that MMO communities are usually filled with people you don't really want to know in the first place.
I agree. Those who donot want to use it and want to do the more challenging content with higher rewards allways have hardmodes or Nightmare modes to do. No need to punish the players who use it to do normal Flashpoints, heroics or Operations even.
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chaosdefined
04.04.2012 , 10:29 AM | #128
Quote: Originally Posted by basonj View Post
This argument always come up. Saying that using a cross server LFG is "giving away free loot". Why is it free? I'm completing the flashpoint/raid just like you and your guild are doing. Why is it a bad thing for me to get the same rewards? Also, I like playing with players who want to finish FPs as fast as possible. Do you and your guildies go in to smell the flowers? I used the dungeon finder hundreds of times on WoW once it came out. I had one bad experience with one group. That one had a douchebag in it. The rest were fine, even if we couldn't complete the dungeon a couple times. Before the DF, I had many more bad experiences which were made even worse because it took an hour or two to get a group together.

I want a cross server LFG tool. I want to play flashpoints and see all the content without having to join a guild or make new "friends". The social aspect of MMOs is vastly over rated as far as I'm concerned. Anyone who remembers Barrens Chat from WoW knows that MMO communities are usually filled with people you don't really want to know in the first place.
Buddy, I want cross-server LFG as well! All I'm doing is coming up with ideas it can be implimented with minimal grief to those who don't like the idea.

That's why I'm saying they shouldn't change the rewards you currently get for completing a Flashpoint.

As for running a dungeon quickly, we don't stop around to look at everything, however I think everyone has had that experience where they really wanted to down an optional boss/kill a mob for a quest but the Tank or others just wanted to speed through the instance to get their badges at the end.

Therefore if there's no extra awards at the end, other than the XP and Credits from Missions that you get currently, then there's less chance that people will want to speed their way through at the expense of others enjoyment.

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DarthTHC
04.04.2012 , 10:45 AM | #129
Quote: Originally Posted by chaosdefined View Post
Buddy, I want cross-server LFG as well! All I'm doing is coming up with ideas it can be implimented with minimal grief to those who don't like the idea.

That's why I'm saying they shouldn't change the rewards you currently get for completing a Flashpoint.

As for running a dungeon quickly, we don't stop around to look at everything, however I think everyone has had that experience where they really wanted to down an optional boss/kill a mob for a quest but the Tank or others just wanted to speed through the instance to get their badges at the end.

Therefore if there's no extra awards at the end, other than the XP and Credits from Missions that you get currently, then there's less chance that people will want to speed their way through at the expense of others enjoyment.
Except there's already a built-in reward for finishing flashpoints. Mission terminals in the Supplies sector of the fleet stations give them out. It is unlikely that BW will strip the ability to receive this reward from LFG tool users. They're creating the LFG tool so people have a chance to get groups and get the rewards that grouping offers.

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chaosdefined
04.04.2012 , 10:53 AM | #130
Quote: Originally Posted by DarthTHC View Post
Except there's already a built-in reward for finishing flashpoints. Mission terminals in the Supplies sector of the fleet stations give them out. It is unlikely that BW will strip the ability to receive this reward from LFG tool users. They're creating the LFG tool so people have a chance to get groups and get the rewards that grouping offers.
That's my point. I hope they keep the current rewards for completing a Flashpoint and don't add extras like in WoW. I'll be honest, as much as I think the LFG system is good, there was a problem with it rewarding tokens for using it. Meaning that, like I said, a lot of people were only interested in quickly finishing to get theirs, and people could buy good gear and get into the higher dungeons and raids without having actually experienced much to understand their class.

Though that's a bit of a tangent.
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