No Cross Realm LFG tool please!

Sorry, have to shred your theory on #3 here.

In today's game, the group leader has all the power. The group leader can kick for any reason (doesn't have to give one) at any time, just by clicking the mouse a couple times.

In my time playing SWTOR, this has happened to me, most frequently right at the end of the dungeon, before the final event that gives the quest complete. Yah. Thanks for wasting my 45 minutes to 2 hours there guy.

Second point... I managed to find 3 groups by spamming general chat this weekend.

One of the groups was amazingly flawless.

One of the groups had a group leader (remember, I can't do anything about the group leader as a member) who rolled NEED on everything. Serious God complex. I warned him once I saw the pattern then put him on ignore and dropped group next time he did it. You say X-LFD causes this? Obviously it doesn't because we don't have X-LFD now.

One of the groups seemed like complete MMO noobs. Couldn't figure out crowd control - how to use it or how not to break it. Couldn't figure out buffing. Couldn't figure out how to heal outside of combat. Couldn't figure out they shouldn't face-pull as DPS, that is when the Tank wasn't charging ahead without checking anyone's health or focus. Completely unteachable, and I tried.

So of the several hours I spent spamming, 2/3 of my groups were trash.

Of the thousands of X-LFD runs I did in WoW, less than 5% of my runs even came close to that level of trash, and at least I could do something about some of them, namely vote-kick.

But keep saying that X-LFD is the devil and destroys communities and whatever else you want to say. The simple reality is that this bad behavior happens in the game today without X-LFD and, in fact, as a percentage of groups the bads are far more prevalent now, without the partial anonymity it provides.

So we can agree on have some x-server realms and have some non x-server realms?

The best part about that is we could see people vote with their feet rather than arguing about it over the forums. I would be more than willing to concede if the foot vote ended up so far away from in my favor that it wasn't worth doing.

I played WoW for years and I seen more of the bad behavior everyone is talking about before they had the cross server LFG tool. I never had any problems with people getting their loot and dropping. Maybe it was just that they decided to hang on to get their loot even though the group totally sucked "I can hang on for 3 more pulls then I am outta here to repair my trashed gear".

It's a matter of statistics, the more groups you form, the more chances of a bad one. But I would much rather take my chances at finding a bad group then spending hours upon end spamming chat trying to fine ONE person to fill a group. I had one of my alts at the Hammer station level and decided to work on crafting(the main reason I was training him atm). I spent 3 days on the fleet doing nothing but crafting and spamming chat for a group for 4-8 hours a day. I found one group and that was only because a level 50 was running a guildie through. Being a tank I had to do none of it so it ended up being a very boring run for me. I have seen times where the fleet had around 50-60 people in the middle of the weekend. Out of those maybe 5 or 6 would be around your level and only have of them are interested in looking for a group. Another alt that I have trained to mid 40s has run maybe 4 or 5 flashpoints and it's not for lack of trying.

As for it ruining the community - BS - what community is there other then your guild and those are shrinking daily. X-server groups don't cross ALL of the servers, they are in smaller groups. I have used the tool and ran with people from other servers on more then one occasion. We had nice chats about how things have been since the last time. Launching this game without x-server LFG and the upcoming 1.2 patch was a huge mistake. I said all along during the beta once the date was set that they needed to wait another 6 months.

"But blah, blah, blah never had this at launch"... Yeah you are right and all but one of them is F2P now. When I go by a car I don't compare it to cars from 10 years ago, I compare it to cars coming out next year.

Drop the elitist attitudes and realize that this is for the better of the game. Nobody forces you to use it. But if it helps keep others from quitting from sheer boredom then you benefit from a more active community by Bioware deciding that the game is worth putting more effort into. If it keeps up on it's current decline they will start focusing on their next big launch.

You could slightly downscale stats on the gear awarded from server type C to the point that it made it worth it to get the upgraded versions from server type B. You could do that instead of difficulty settings and tiers. I should be getting paid for these idea.

Oh man! What a factual and logical post! Well said.

thanks. I kinda had the feeling I was geared enough (at least for a little while - all seems easy so far but I kinda haven't been able to do very much... at all... my guild all quit...) but wasn't sure.

but tbh I've always been in guilds that push content as far as possible before everyone gets all geared up then we kinda just carry people so gear's never really been a big deal.

but I still think I'll be buying some artifact cybertech mods etc. Just in case this tool ever gets going least it looks like I got plenty of time so logging in once a week or so should do it

Just wait for the single-server dungeon finder before you complain that it won't work. Everything takes baby steps. Just like how they won't introduce flying mounts YET because it was the same route that WoW went.

Single-server dungeon finder is the best compromise.