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When will there be a "SERVER MERGE?"

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When will there be a "SERVER MERGE?"

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Darth_Gao_Gao
04.03.2012 , 04:26 PM | #471
what's funny is how you people think that even with an adequate population, that the game will suddenly sprout life.

the structure of the game forbids any life. enjoy your instanced instances.

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Gomuningen
04.03.2012 , 04:33 PM | #472
I want to keep playing until GW2 comes out. But my server is dying a little more as each week passes by. I do not want to reroll as I have close to lv20 Legacy on my server.

Why does this topic of low population go unanswered by BW??

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DiabloDoom
04.03.2012 , 04:38 PM | #473
No please don't merge the servers. I like being on a server with barely a 100 people online peak, being in a guild with 150 members but only 10 online at best, no-one to talk to, no-one to ask questions, running about like a headless chicken overlooking important stuff, waiting for up to an hour for a pvp match, not being able to trade whatsoever, to of never done a heroic, to of only done 1 FP. I could go on.

As I've said before. I just feel that there should be more of a lesser pop indication as "light" seems extremely ambiguous when choosing a server. Obviously the Devs objective were to have a variety of choice of population, but just opening up a bundle of servers with only 3 variations and no accuracy of population can lead to a very poor gaming experience. No way would anyone assume that by choosing the light option that they would infact be choosing a dead server. Devs should not have let these servers open without adequate player growth to compensate.

A low populated server on what is suspected to be a popular game would generally implicate an uncrowded server with just enough populace to be able to permit playability of all aspects of the game. Not being forsaken and unaccompanied on a world unable to group, guild, or ask questions (which noobs like me need).

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faymar
04.03.2012 , 04:46 PM | #474
Quote: Originally Posted by Holden_Dissent View Post
I agree with your "vote with your wallet" approach. The rest of your post isn't really relevant. You can't compare human beliefs and playing a freaking video game.

But I agree. If you guys are so miserable that you feel you have to quit instead of reroll and be patient, then by all means, cancel your account and in the little box there go into detail about why you are quitting. That's really the only way you'll be taken seriously. In my opinion obviously.
It's all bluff an bluster some of these people have been quitting for three months....yet they never seem to actually leave. The biggest effect you can give BioWare if you are that unhappy with them is you silence and lack of monthly payment instead of variations of derp th3i5 g@m3 SuXxorz herp.

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PlagaNerezza
04.03.2012 , 04:52 PM | #475
Quote: Originally Posted by Touchbass View Post
How many re-roll the same class on their home server? Very few. You know why? It's not fun. So why would someone want to re-roll the same class (which is thier main) on another server? Bag logic is bad
Its the grind of it thats horrible. I am leveling a sage and its just mind-numbing without anyone to play with.
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Kubernetic
04.03.2012 , 05:22 PM | #476
Quote: Originally Posted by andrelle View Post
Sure, let's ignore anyone with a criticism. That's how things get done.

Long ago, in a small settlement of some 13 colonies, some people opposed a tax on certain goods by a far away kingdom trying to legitimize every single squeeze of money out of the colonists. Good thing they, as a small minority, were ignored.

I do like your sig, though:

"March 9, 2012 — The day I stopped waiting, took control of my gaming experience, and switched servers."

Here's what I propose to improve your game experience. Don't reroll. Don't make an alt. Stop paying your monthly tax to the BW kingdom until things are improved. We as consumers are the only ones with the power of choice. If enough choose to boycott new systems until the old ones are up to spec, maybe something will get done.

Or continue to pay your tax and sleep well. You're only legitimizing another developer to do the same.
Comparing real life and having your livelihood taxed by an autocratic king to a video game is filled with failure. But the laugh was worth it.

As to your proposition, it is soundly rejected. I have no need to "stop paying", as I'm getting more than my money's worth on my new server. I'm not going to just intentionally allow my experience to flounder just so I can have some sort of solidarity with those of you who refuse to take the initiative.

I'm enjoying my play time, can find plenty of groups to team up with, and am not at all unhappy about the current state of the game.

I'll say it again... the game has been out already for about 3 months. When I came here to play, I planned on playing for multiple years. To "lose" 3 months worth of playing time (which is a lie, because I also enjoyed that three months, even if I have to start over) so that I may enjoy the next few years, even if they NEVER ADDED SERVER TRANSFERS, then it's a bargain.

This has to be a generational thing. Video games when I grew up were not dynamic changing situations every single time. Every time you played Donkey Kong, the levels were all the same. But that didn't stop you from playing Donkey Kong again the next time you went to the arcade.

When I had a favorite game on a 286 computer and had Ultima VII games stored, and the computer went kaputz and I bought a new 386 computer and had to reload the game, I had to play through the parts I'd already played through, but it was still fun, and still entertaining, and still worth it to do so.

When I played through GTA4 and beat the game, but lost the computer again several months back, when the system was reloaded, I stuck GTA4 in again and played it over to get back to where I was.

I just don't understand this "I already played through it once, I'm not going to do it again" attitude. It's completely alien to me.

I could swear I heard Stephen Reid say at the Guild Summit (during the opening 20 minute segment) or at some other time in the afternoon that the Australian transfers would be FIRST, and this would be available to other players after that.

But you know what? Even if I didn't, I'm willing to accept the things that are happening because this is what early adopters go through. When you're first in line through the door, often times you get an experience that isn't quite up to snuff as those who come in 2 years later.

When it's an automobile, you may end up dealing with some design flaws that would be fixed in the Gen 2 model or beyond.

When it's technology, like the iPhone, you wind up paying an exorbitant amount of money. Instead of waiting in line all day for several days and then paying $600 for an iPhone, I waited a year or two and got a refurb model for $19.

When it's an operating system, especially like Windows, you wind up with bugs and other issues that don't get resolved until several Service Packs later.

When it's a video game, and you're first in line, you get the same sort of issues, sometimes bugs, sometimes it isn't properly compatible with your video card until a patch comes out.

And when it's an MMORPG, you wind up in some of the same issues. I was there for STO right out of the gate, and I figured the game was going to be a phenomenal success and doubled down on a lifetime subscription. Whoops.

When it's a game like SWTOR, and it's built on the shard model (which I'm not opposed to, as I can see its advantages over STO's unified server with instances model), if you start off right away, you may end up picking the wrong server, as games always puff up with the first in crowd, and then slow down over time until it starts getting going again as some of the players who wanted to play invariably decide it wasn't what they thought it would be.

With a game with so much emotion and energy invested in it as Star Wars, this is even more so the case.

You all can really do what you wish. You're free to choose.

I made my choice. I re-rolled on a new server and I love it. Sorry you don't, but them's the breaks. You could fix it if you wanted to, but you don't, so I suppose you're happiest right where you are.

Enjoy!
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cipher_nemo
04.03.2012 , 05:26 PM | #477
Quote: Originally Posted by andrelle View Post
Long ago, in a small settlement of some 13 colonies, some people opposed a tax on certain goods by a far away kingdom trying to legitimize every single squeeze of money out of the colonists. Good thing they, as a small minority, were ignored.
Oh my. You're comparing playing a game and responding to a developer by referencing the American Revolution? Please, time for a reality check. I agree with your annoyance over the current situation, but there's really no need for those sort of delusions of grandeur.

It would be nice to have Bioware implement free server transfers (at least free for one or two moves) right after 1.2. And they said they're going to allow it sometime in the future, just no clue when?

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PlagaNerezza
04.03.2012 , 05:28 PM | #478
Quote: Originally Posted by faymar View Post
It's all bluff an bluster some of these people have been quitting for three months....yet they never seem to actually leave. The biggest effect you can give BioWare if you are that unhappy with them is you silence and lack of monthly payment instead of variations of derp th3i5 g@m3 SuXxorz herp.
I know it sounds stupid but I cancelled and unsubbed m 6 month sub and with so much time remaining I play cause I paid for the stupid thing and played since beta in november before weekend testing started was when i got official invite.

I just think it was the launch where they way over limited the servers capacity and forced you and guilds to pick something other than choice 1. Now everyone is feeling the pinch and all I want to do is get a move. It sucks to move and surrender everything I earned.

Let me create a 50 of my class someplace else. Something. Cause this system is freaking obnixous. You try doing the planetary quests again, because you need the xp and sadly the quickiest way to level is doing those god awful run to a, kill, return quests.

I hate leveling my alts. Let alone same class alts. I was willing to do that but legacy is server based?

What idiot did that by the way? Lets build server specific things to make consolidation of servers harder. That guy should be made to get on this forum and applogize before you fire him. That was a huge mistake and should never have been allowed in a game where you homogenized the hell out of the database objects to make it easier to consolidate servers.

Someone didn't learn from SWG's resource spawn differences.

They could never consolidate dying servers fast enough either. That got you the NGE.

Populations are like water. Everything dies without water. If you learned nothing from SWG other than consolidation is the key then you are in trouble.

you start making rash decisions. You start doing things like 1.2. Lets work on legacy stuff. Yea cause making me buy access to my in-game email is some smart move.

Its the space age where you travel at lightspeed and use holo transmitters across planets to instantly communite with another being light years away, but your ship doesn't get email.

Lets gut all the level 60's gear progression. That won't piss anyone off that only has champion armor and now you get that for 50 cents and 2 seconds at a vendor.

I know lets nerf sage the highest played profession and fix smuggler whose main complaint is that cover effectively self roots a toon to further self root. Or anyone of the other countless stupid things 1.2 is bringing to the game none of which seem to make the experience better.

Yea its the "quitters" who never leave that are the problem.....
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andrelle
04.03.2012 , 05:35 PM | #479
Quote: Originally Posted by cipher_nemo View Post
Oh my. You're comparing playing a game and responding to a developer by referencing the American Revolution? Please, time for a reality check. I agree with your annoyance over the current situation, but there's really no need for those sort of delusions of grandeur.

It would be nice to have Bioware implement free server transfers (at least free for one or two moves) right after 1.2. And they said they're going to allow it sometime in the future, just no clue when?
Of course its an extreme analogy. The point being players who complain about the low server pop and lack of server transfer are considered to be a vocal minority.

It means don't say silent even when people think you're wrong and shout you down. Sometimes the majority can't hear their own thoughts over the roar of the crowd.

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andrelle
04.03.2012 , 05:42 PM | #480
Quote: Originally Posted by Kubernetic View Post

This has to be a generational thing. Video games when I grew up were not dynamic changing situations every single time. Every time you played Donkey Kong, the levels were all the same. But that didn't stop you from playing Donkey Kong again the next time you went to the arcade.
Donkey Kong was a quarter. I also didn't play it again after I beat it.

And just because I reread a book doesn't mean I purchased it twice.

So I'm a little picky when it comes to entertainment. I don't repeat the same action over and over for the hell of it. Some do. There's a word for that.