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When will there be a "SERVER MERGE?"

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When will there be a "SERVER MERGE?"

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Nakazia
04.03.2012 , 01:06 PM | #451
Quote: Originally Posted by Andryah View Post
What the doom and gloom segment of the forum community does is immature, not constructive, and often baseless.
What the doom and gloom segment of the forum community does is out of frustration because this is a legitimate issue and it appears (from lack of any acknowlegdement by Bioware) to be ignored. The whole pay to beta a dying game on their server is getting old.

Some of these people were placed on their current server BY BIOWARE at launch as part of a guild. Some frankly just picked the wrong server to play on and their server has been dead or declining in population rapidly over the last few months since launch.

In any event the fact that this has not been address by Bioware is erroneous on their part.

This isn't an issue that will miraculously go away in 1.2 or even 1.3.. 1.4.. 1.5.. if something isn't done, it will just get worse. Cross servers queues could fix a few problems in the future, but that still won't fix the fact that the server is still dead and there will still be less of everything available to the people on them. People have already put alot of time and effort into what they've accomplished since they began playing and to have to re-roll and lose it all just to play an MMO with PEOPLE is simply a ridiculous option.

New players aren't going to choose a low pop server to play on and Bioware needs to step up and do something about this already.

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StarryCiel
04.03.2012 , 01:26 PM | #452
Please never merge the servers :/
I like my character names.

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Jederix
04.03.2012 , 01:39 PM | #453
Quote: Originally Posted by Nakazia View Post
What the doom and gloom segment of the forum community does is out of frustration because this is a legitimate issue and it appears (from lack of any acknowlegdement by Bioware) to be ignored. The whole pay to beta a dying game on their server is getting old.
Doesn't change the fact that they are a miniscule minority. However, they are very loud.
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Jederix
04.03.2012 , 01:42 PM | #454
Quote: Originally Posted by StarryCiel View Post
Please never merge the servers :/
I like my character names.
Don't worry. Server merge = bad publicity, much more bad publicity than can be conjured up by a few very vocal forum posters about dead/dying servers (claims that, to this day, are still made in WoW despite its 10 million playerbase). For that reason alone, they won't merge the servers (if they are smart).

Paid transfer services will come soon (though I'm sure many of the same people complaining in this thread now will then complain that transfers aren't free), however. I'm certain of it.
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Kubernetic
04.03.2012 , 01:42 PM | #455
ig•nore
ig•nored | ig•nor•ing

transitive verb

1 : to refuse to take notice of

2 : to reject (a bill of indictment) as ungrounded


Since BioWare has addressed low-population servers in a number of ways, including a coming cross-server Warzone tool, the coming server transfer functionality, as well as the simple ability to roll a character on any server you wish, using the term "ignore" in relation to this issue is not only in error, but it is intentionally dishonest and deceitful, presuming you understand what the word "ignore" means.

If you didn't know what the word "ignore" means, now you do.
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Karbon
04.03.2012 , 01:58 PM | #456
Just moved to "The Fatman" from Davik's estate and I have been having fun, Sucks that I have to re-roll but I am at least enjoying the game now. I was able to run back to back flashpoints literally zero wait time. I wish I could have taken my 50's along though and all that legacy xp.... Guess we just need to wait and see what is going to happen.

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andrelle
04.03.2012 , 02:04 PM | #457
Quote: Originally Posted by Kubernetic View Post

At the Guild Summit, they speciifically stated, however, that once those transfers are conducted for the Australian/NZ players, then the system will be rolled out and available to the rest of the players at a later date. They have not stated that transfers will be free for every character, just for those in the Australian/NZ regions who qualify, and you should have received an email by now (or will receive it sometime in April) that lists more information if you are one of these players.

They also stated that they will make further announcements in April, which of course only just started, and still has 27 days remaining...

Hope that helps.
Here's what was stated by James Ohlen at the Guild Summit concerning server transfers:

Q: server balance – 57% empire, 42% Republic – my server is a ghost town on the Republic side.

A: what if we put in a system that encourage people to play the other side? We think that will help. We are hoping the legacy will help with that. No server transfers right now, maybe further down the line. Legacy is too complicated to allow server transfer. Our faction disparity is actually not too bad right now.

Link: http://dulfy.net/2012/03/05/swtor-gu...live-blogging/

So, interpret that however you like. The way I see it, there are no server transfer systems planned, Legacy adds complexity to even allow it, and as far as a transfer system being rolled out at a later date as stated in the post above....source? Because if there's a source, it contradicts what Ohlen states here.

This is why BW needs to at least comment on the issue. To end confusion, contradiction, speculation. That's what you do for paying customers. That makes good business sense.

As far as us being a loud minority, come talk to me when there's 250K subscribers. Maybe you're satisfied paying $15/month for single player mode, but many of us are not.

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trueanimus
04.03.2012 , 02:07 PM | #458
Quote: Originally Posted by samht View Post
Just wait until 1.2 comes out and it is bugged to hell and it doesn't do anything but create more problems and then BioWare loses the last 6 guys playing the game and it has to make this single player wana be mmo game into free to play.

SWToR Timeline for 2012
1.2 luanches

Lost of Bug

Last 6 players quit

Swtor goes F2P

servers fill back upt

have to agree there... if 1.2 doesnt fix a ton of stuff. the game will go f2play soon... right now in peak hours on the razor.. we see maybe 20-50 on fleet.. and thats being generous. The fact is that people have left because if you play 1 main toon (like most) pvp isnt an option when you get 5-15 fps.. and ops are so laggy because of the fog and effects.


simply put.. the game is dying and 1.2 will be the deciding factor for a ton of people.. it better be good.. or this pos will be flushed.
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Nakazia
04.03.2012 , 02:26 PM | #459
Quote: Originally Posted by Kubernetic View Post
Since BioWare has addressed low-population servers in a number of ways, including a coming cross-server Warzone tool,

I'm sorry when's that comming? Oh some time in... the summer? the fall? When they're good and ready to take ranked warzones out of beta?

They are only saying they intend to add this feature because splitting the queues on low pop or hell even moderately populated servers is going to put a stress on the whole queue system and their only option in the mean time is to offer mixed-match queues (what a joke) which benefit anyone queuing as a ranked player more than the regular queue joe.

What about people who enjoy PvE? Good luck no plans for that.


the coming server transfer functionality,

Link?

as well as the simple ability to roll a character on any server you wish,

Gee thanks, I'll screw everthing I've done since launch so I can play with people in an MMO? No thanks, I'd rather unsub than re-roll when I finally admit that the last four and a half months of playing are down the drain.

using the term "ignore" in relation to this issue is not only in error, but it is intentionally dishonest and deceitful, presuming you understand what the word "ignore" means.
Synonyms
1. overlook; slight, disregard, neglect.

If you're on a low pop server you are being overlooked, slighted, disregarded and neglected to rot on your dead server until Bioware does something or... you give up even trying to log in anymore.

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andrelle
04.03.2012 , 02:31 PM | #460
Quote: Originally Posted by Kubernetic View Post
ig•nore
ig•nored | ig•nor•ing

transitive verb

1 : to refuse to take notice of

2 : to reject (a bill of indictment) as ungrounded


Since BioWare has addressed low-population servers in a number of ways, including a coming cross-server Warzone tool, the coming server transfer functionality, as well as the simple ability to roll a character on any server you wish, using the term "ignore" in relation to this issue is not only in error, but it is intentionally dishonest and deceitful, presuming you understand what the word "ignore" means.

If you didn't know what the word "ignore" means, now you do.
Sure, let's ignore anyone with a criticism. That's how things get done.

Long ago, in a small settlement of some 13 colonies, some people opposed a tax on certain goods by a far away kingdom trying to legitimize every single squeeze of money out of the colonists. Good thing they, as a small minority, were ignored.

I do like your sig, though:

"March 9, 2012 — The day I stopped waiting, took control of my gaming experience, and switched servers."

Here's what I propose to improve your game experience. Don't reroll. Don't make an alt. Stop paying your monthly tax to the BW kingdom until things are improved. We as consumers are the only ones with the power of choice. If enough choose to boycott new systems until the old ones are up to spec, maybe something will get done.

Or continue to pay your tax and sleep well. You're only legitimizing another developer to do the same.