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HeavensAgent
04.03.2012 , 02:23 PM | #621
Quote: Originally Posted by Azumio View Post
lol @ low population on servers not being a deal breaker.
Not really. Once the servers are consolidated the population will be reasonably spread out; the only reason it's such an issue now is that we're spread too thin. Even conservative estimates indicate the game as a whole boasts enough active subscriptions to be successful indefinitely, and based on models of an MMORPG's lifespan we're at the lowest population a game reaches other than its death throes several years after launch.

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HeavensAgent
04.03.2012 , 02:24 PM | #622
Quote: Originally Posted by trueanimus View Post
wheres the masses?
The RP servers. They rerolled. You were left behind. I guess they forgot to tell you.

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Rimiserk
04.03.2012 , 02:28 PM | #623
Ula Vii has 2 people in Republic Fleet at 21:00, at weekend it has 5.
Population is dropping severely and if server mergers dont happen this game will probably go down to 5 servers max, thats 5 servers of a bad game, if it was good then population wouldnt drop.
90% of European population is playing on Tomb of Freedon Nadd and rest of servers are slowly dying out, patch 1.2 is next to a bad joke, such incompetence is just amazing.
I applaud Bioware and EA on such epic fail.
Viribus Unitis!!

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Holden_Dissent
04.03.2012 , 02:28 PM | #624
Quote: Originally Posted by Azumio View Post
lol @ low population on servers not being a deal breaker.

That's like saying your wife cheats on you, rubs it in your face, but it's not a deal breaker, it's normal.

I'm roaring with laughter right now.

The very meaning of MMORPG's is massive amount of players playing together to conquer massive amounts of content.

Which this game doesn't have.
bad analogy. You can't compare entertainment to something emotional. You should not be emotionally invested in a video game unless you physically helped create it.

WoW has more dead servers than SWTOR so what does that make WoW?

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Seraphixis
04.03.2012 , 02:33 PM | #625
Quote: Originally Posted by HeavensAgent View Post
The RP servers. They rerolled. You were left behind. I guess they forgot to tell you.
Not to antagonize you, but a comment like that is eminently not constructive in a thread that is meant to find/ask for a solution to what you yourself recognize is a problem.

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HeavensAgent
04.03.2012 , 02:35 PM | #626
Quote: Originally Posted by Frostvein View Post
Nobody decided "well, my server has a healthy pop, time to go reroll to another server and leave my legacy and my other toons behind!" Its like you are answering questions I didn't ask. Yes, I know people are being "proactive" and doing Bio's job for them. That still doesn't explain where all the people went. Something caused them to move servers to find more people.
People did leave the game, but it was all at once. At the end of a game's initial launch bubble a substantial portion of the community always leaves. It's the same phenomena that results in WoW's number swelling just after a new expansion, only to have them return to pre-expansion numbers within a month or two afterwards. This was why Bioware was emphasizing the need to keep server numbers low, and why we were told to bear with the queue times. They knew the bubble was going to burst, and that if there were too many servers those that remained would find themselves on servers with less-than optimal populations. Sure enough that's what happened.

That's why people began to start rerolling; the servers that fared better due to nothing more than luck of the draw became destinations for those looking for a new home. They left their suddenly empty servers, a change that literally occurred over a week, in order to seek out greener pastures. The majority of the community that didn't leave after that first month is still playing the game. The current number of subscriptions is not dropping off, at least not at a substantial rate. These are the individuals who are truly invested in SWTOR's success for one reason or another.

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HeavensAgent
04.03.2012 , 02:39 PM | #627
Quote: Originally Posted by Seraphixis View Post
Not to antagonize you, but a comment like that is eminently not constructive in a thread that is meant to find/ask for a solution to what you yourself recognize is a problem.
I was constructing my constructive post. I wanted to get the snide knee-jerk stuff out first so it didn't sully my attempt to shed light on the situation.

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Xyphias
04.03.2012 , 02:42 PM | #628
It has been said a zillion times by now, but this population problem urgently needs to be fixed.

I also noticed that some people are complaining about their server having about 50-70 players on the fleet on peak moments... well those people don't realize it's not THAT bad on their server... just come and visit me on the fleet on the Senator Contispex server and you'll get a whole new definition of "low population". You won't have trouble finding me there, since most of the time it's just me and 3-4 others there... and about 10 players during prime-time (if you're lucky).

Most planets don't have more than 5 players on them (prime-time), some even less. I guess I don't need to tell you how "fun" warzones are? Well they mostly just don't exist, and if they start, they end within 120 secs because there aren't enough players.

So please do something about this or give us at least an idea when this will be solved, so I can leave and return to this game when it's fixed. It's very sad because i really love this game, and my server used to be very fun and had a large population, even queues at times.

And please, I really don't need answers like "just reroll on another server"... That just isn't a solution, that's literally running away...

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Ackarion
04.03.2012 , 02:54 PM | #629
Quote: Originally Posted by Kthx View Post
Can you back this up with some facts please? It's hard to have a serious discussion with people who make unfounded assertions.
It is not the point of the original conversation that of the comment I started. The individual who insists that placing 2nd or 3rd is a resounding accomplishment. The truth is placing 2nd or 3rd is not resounding when a MMO that is placed 1st and has not been toppled for such a duration is resounding. Many MMO's come into play and place 2nd and 3rd in the past but fall to the wayside or find a niche that keeps them stable for a duration. That is not resounding. To provide facts on a topic that was not the intention of communication has no need for provision.

Currently STWOR in the #2 or #3 slot. Either they fall to the wayside this next year or so or succeed to stabilize and maintain the niche. What will be resounding for SWTOR if they can accomplish this and topple for the #1 slot. Then will that be a resounding act. Just placing #2 and #3 is not once again resounding.

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Frostvein
04.03.2012 , 02:56 PM | #630
Quote: Originally Posted by HeavensAgent View Post
People did leave the game, but it was all at once.

They left their suddenly empty servers, a change that literally occurred over a week
You have no proof of this, only speculation.
Meanwhile, in Tera general chat -

"The sad thing is, arguing with fanbois on the forums was more entertaining than their 300 million dollar single player MMO from 2008"