No Cross Realm LFG tool please!

Epic Idea

Single server LFG won't solve anything on the servers with lower population, which is at least half and probably most of them.

All that it does is encourage people who didn't want to waste their time spamming LFG to join in. Yes, you'll get a few more people in then you would normally, I don't disagree with that. But on the smaller servers where 50-75 people is the norm on the fleet during prime-time, its not going to make much of a difference, and its probably going to have little to no impact on lower level content. If you only manage 50-75 people on fleet during primetime, then there is just no way you have that number in any other level range before, during or after.

You are failing to take into account here that a fair portion of the people playing the game who could care less about PvE content. Your also forgetting about the population at 50 who is raiding and could care less about flashpoints. Now your back down to a group of what, 30 people? 40? Out of 75? Not to mention that you still need to account for these other factors including but not limited to # of tanks, healers, people who run with their guild/friends, people who just don't want to do it that night....the list goes on.

At best, (absolutely best case scenario) a single server LFG tool is going to get a half dozen to a dozen runs per night during prime-time and maybe 1-2 off peak on a large number of servers, and I still feel like that is generous. At worst, we're talking 1-3 groups a day max. The reality? I suspect 5-7 groups nightly, which would be up from the 1-3 we see now from people spamming LFG.


This is why it is not going to work. Cross server solves the problem of being limited to your ****** server to get basic content done. Yea, WoW sucks, I get it, but one of the great things about that game is I can log into their servers at any time in the day/night and get a BG/H Dungeon in.

No, it was the same game after lfd it was before lfd; just less sitting around and waiting.

If you changed how you personally played it and started treating it as a lobby game, then the fault lies with you.. it's not indicative of a change in the game itself.

I'm skeptical of this claim, since you say that you immediately started treating WoW as a lobby game after lfd.

That's not true at all; you just had to do tpye /2 Level Class lfg which doesn't require getting to knowing anyone. That's what the game was like before lfd.

Pretending that lfd was responsible for any changes toward that is absurd... the game had already been like that for years.

I know SWG is SOE and a sanbox MMO. totally different. But.... If BW removed the fleets and added a spaceport system like in SWG. One per city. Each spaceport allowing travel to the next city or planet with no hops. Each city having its own perks. One city holds all the PVP reward vendors, Another city all the PVE rewards etc. Instead of the system we have now, Fleets, loading screens and more loading screens. A community hub based off the planets never made sense. But this is off topic so ill leave it there.

Or even if your ship didn't take off every single time you entered it. Instead if it was like KOTOR where you got on your ship, then once you picked a destination you got the ship taking off cutscene/loading screen.

1) Dont tell me how i played or treated a game

2) dont follow up with a discussion saying i treated a game in a said way when i never said such things or did such things.

3) read what I actually wrote and maybe comment on the social aspect. If you honestly didnt see the social side of wow or any other MMO and just sat there spamming. boo hoo you. but not all of us did that. I was a social MMO player, not a console matching making type of guy. Work it out!

Insta-LFG tools reward antisocial a-holes for being antisocial a-holes. There is no up-side to being polite and getting to know your team in a social manner as is the expectation in a multi-player game. Likewise there is no punishment for being a ********.

I recognize that the server population thing is a real issue (I had to leave 3 50's on a ghost-town server), but this is a lousy solution to that problem.

No..it is a very bad idea. Why punish players for not having hours on end to find a grp? In WoW..those who use the Looking for Raid tool, which is cross server..they donot get drops with items as high as the normal raids, but it does give them more then they can get in 5 man heroics. Plus they get to experence the End Game Content and get credit for doing so. Those who want to fluff up thier feathers and strut around with the "Heroic Deathwing Achievement" still get to.

Punish? Ey.... Oh the time issue again.

So, there should be no incentive to get in groups and be social without a do it all system? No rewards? sure lol

There is in my guild. If any of my players act like jerks in our LFG runs ( and we do several together weekly ) they will be warned and if they persist..they will be removed from the guild. We "create" a honorable guild with our rules and standards. Those outside of it are easily dealt with using the ignore tool.