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When will there be a "SERVER MERGE?"

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When will there be a "SERVER MERGE?"

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Solo_Han
04.03.2012 , 06:44 AM | #411
Quote: Originally Posted by greenboy View Post
to all the people who are complaining about there not being anyone on their servers anymore that is what happens when at launch you don't want to wait for the busy servers and go to a lower pop server at launch because all MMO's slow down after the first month and half the servers will die. i do think it would be nice to have a merger for all the smallest servers to relieve the problem though. but what did you expect when you joined a lower population server early in the games life.
My server was full with a 30 min queue for the first 3 weeks after launch... It is now low, and has about c.130 total during peak hours. That's down from around 1000+ when I joined it.

Everyone understands that, and for a lot of people this isn't their first MMO launch. But after 4 months, and no news, people get impatient, and they quit as this isn't an MMO on those servers. But Rift and WAR both reduced servers within 3 months of launch. We're now coming up to 4, and still not a peep.

Another issue is that TOR has more servers than WoW at the moment in the US and EU, but 1/10th the player base. That's a pretty big issue IMO.

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DarthKhaos
04.03.2012 , 06:45 AM | #412
Quote: Originally Posted by Shredbull View Post
Guilds have been merging on my server aswell.... population at peak times : 30-40 players in the fleet.

This may seem much but its not... queues can go well over 1-2 hours and half of the players is afking.

I have moved to the only high pop EU server, tomb of freedom nadd. This server is full of server switchers but who cares, at least it FEELS like an mmorpg.

All the other servers feel like single player games, I miss my toons, I have invested months of work in them and I dont get to play them anymore because it is simply impossible.

Its like I have worked on restoring a car for a year and yesterday it got stolen from me.

I have leveled a new toon to level 12, and I have given up, I have simply given up. I don't have that happy-feeling anymore, after leveling 3 characters to 50, I am DONE. Bioware can have my subscription back when they offer server transfers and nothing else.


Merging 3 dead servers won't fix anything. They will have to merge at least 5-10 servers togheter to create a decent community.

Having many empty servers is bad. Open your eyes bioware, you are NOT world of warcraft. You do NOT need 50 servers with 50 players each. Instead, have 5 servers with 500 players each. Quality > Quantity, a thing you have yet to learn.
I find it funny that people use the number of players on fleet as an accurate representation of how many people are on the server. I saw 14 players on fleet on my server last night and queues were like 10-15mins. Maybe people don't like PvPing on your server.

I'm not saying there aren't low pop servers and this is why I'm gonna continue to advocate for a virtual server that spans multiple servers where we can not just chat but play with by server hopping within that group of servers just as you would server hop to enter a cross server flashpoint/warzone.
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Drunkenpig
04.03.2012 , 06:49 AM | #413
Quote: Originally Posted by Solo_Han View Post
You could always just say upon transfer - "Sorry, I'm afraid your name is currently used on this server. Please select a new one."

Not really rocket science now is it. Then you update the SQL tables to reflect that name change, and you're done. Same goes for Legacy names.


EDIT: Incidentally, I've just re-rolled on Europe's only populated server... The tomb of nar Faradd (or something similar), the problem with that though is that because everyone is jumping on that one server, there's usually a queue, whilst the rest of the servers are all standard/low.

THIS PROBLEM CANNOT BE FIXED BY PLAYERS - IT REQUIRES ~BW~ INTERVENTION...

I would be a lot more inclined to continue playing if:

BW WOULD AT LEAST ADMIT THERE'S A PROBLEM - AND THAT THEY ARE 'WORKING ON IT'!!

But they seem to be either ignoring it, ignorant of it, or unwilling to act on it. All of which are real management problems.
No, you don't understand. The name "Drunkenpig" is highly valued, at least as valuable as a legacy 41, so any transfer must allow me to keep my name.

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Solo_Han
04.03.2012 , 06:57 AM | #414
Quote: Originally Posted by Drunkenpig View Post
No, you don't understand. The name "Drunkenpig" is highly valued, at least as valuable as a legacy 41, so any transfer must allow me to keep my name.
Then don't transfer your character, and keep your name. There are no alternatives. If you like living at number 7 in your road, and you have to move to another road, possibly in another country to be close to work, you can't demand that you also get to live at number 7 again, just because it holds more value than 8. Life doesn't work like that.

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basonj
04.03.2012 , 06:58 AM | #415
I'm not worried about names, I'm just looking forward to server transfers period. Free would be nice, but i'd probably pay if I had to. I rolled on a light pop server to learn the ins and outs without stumbling over people or having to hunt to get my "x" number of kills to finish my bonus missions. Now I'm comfortable with the game and would like to be on a server with a higher pop. Here's hoping there are still people to play with when they get them rolled out. This game is just different enough to keep my interest so I'll be around for a while, but it would be nice to be able to get flash points and warzones without waiting around for hours.
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Engalius
04.03.2012 , 07:00 AM | #416
Hi,

I am an Aussie, I play across 3 separate time zones due to my work and being on the 2nd shift and I play on the US server Van Zallow or Zellow, I always misspell that thing.

Anyway, long story short. Empire side is dead no matter what time zone I play at. I am used to logging on and getting ques easily with good players, getting a hard mode done now and then with pugs.

But now, I dont know what has happened, but as if everyone either re-rolled or are awaiting 1.2 to pop out and see how things pan out. All I can say its a dust bowl now.

For those who say maybe peeps don't like to pvp on my server, or pve, well I do both, my friends list has roughly 30 to 40 people on it that I regularly pvp or pve with.

Now, I am lucky to have 1 person online, and these guys were pretty hardcore players.



I am.. rather disapointed at the moment as the game has a lot of good content, well decent content. I would like to experience it but I am held back by the lack of people.


If I can make a parallel, this is like playing a low pop EverQuest 2 server with better graphics, but the difference being you would still get more action on EQ2.


/sigh

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matzackjones
04.03.2012 , 07:09 AM | #417
I have to admit that I would have expected BW to outline their plans regarding server populations. To my mind, there is a clear issue on a substantial number of servers and it must be costing them subscriptions. I decided to bite the bullet and re-roll on a busier server, which clearly isn't an ideal solution. It makes the situation worse. It makes the busy servers busier and the quieter servers more like Ghost towns.

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Valkirus
04.03.2012 , 07:13 AM | #418
Quote: Originally Posted by Engalius View Post
Hi,

I am an Aussie, I play across 3 separate time zones due to my work and being on the 2nd shift and I play on the US server Van Zallow or Zellow, I always misspell that thing.

Anyway, long story short. Empire side is dead no matter what time zone I play at. I am used to logging on and getting ques easily with good players, getting a hard mode done now and then with pugs.

But now, I dont know what has happened, but as if everyone either re-rolled or are awaiting 1.2 to pop out and see how things pan out. All I can say its a dust bowl now.

For those who say maybe peeps don't like to pvp on my server, or pve, well I do both, my friends list has roughly 30 to 40 people on it that I regularly pvp or pve with.

Now, I am lucky to have 1 person online, and these guys were pretty hardcore players.



I am.. rather disapointed at the moment as the game has a lot of good content, well decent content. I would like to experience it but I am held back by the lack of people.


If I can make a parallel, this is like playing a low pop EverQuest 2 server with better graphics, but the difference being you would still get more action on EQ2.

/sigh
A prime example of how a cross server LFG tool would benefit many players. Those who think BioWare is going to merge servers when there is a more economical way to correct low pop servers....well...dream on.
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andrelle
04.03.2012 , 07:13 AM | #419
Quote: Originally Posted by -Dench View Post
I think it shows a large problem over at the BW office. This issue implies to me that there is infighting at the director level on how to handle it, therefor the PR and Marketing people can't get near the issue.

The fact of the matter is, this issue is massive. People who say otherwise either have infinite amounts of time to re roll toons, are on high pop servers or have little to no business sense.

I work full time, and I am in school full time picking up a new degree. I don't have the time or the patience to re roll on another server. It's taken me 4 months of playing to get me where I am now. I'm not about to sideline my 50 and 45 toons.
That's absolutely true. Its all about perception. The perception is they are doing minimal to nothing about the issue since they won't respond, and its a main topic. The perception is also they want us to reroll alts, because of how they've been touting Legacy all over the place.

I work full-time as well. Who has time to reroll on other servers, which may or may not hold their pops for long.

Attention spans are decreasing. You need to attract people. The fact that server merges happened faster with other mmos should give them the direction they need. But they pay no mind to it.

I hope they've made the money they expected from this game, because the way they are managing, they have a very short future. EA has plenty of other IPs, maybe that's why this isn't that great a concern to them.

Sell the IP to Sony. At least then we know what we're getting.

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RocNessMonster
04.03.2012 , 07:22 AM | #420
Quote: Originally Posted by Valkirus View Post
A prime example of how a cross server LFG tool would benefit many players. Those who think BioWare is going to merge servers when there is a more economical way to correct low pop servers....well...dream on.
Cross Server LFG is just a bandaid. Cross server will not help your economy nor will it help your guild recruit new raiders. World of Warcraft has cross server everything yet the game is still losing customers steadily since xLFG/xLFR inception.
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