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No Cross Realm LFG tool please!


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amantheil
04.02.2012 , 07:45 PM | #981
Quote: Originally Posted by Esproc View Post
Immorality is running rampant with the "I'm not accountable because no one can do any thing" attitude that a X-Server LFG brings with it.
I'll quote the key parts of my earlier rant:
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So fine, if you don't want a cross-server LFG tool, then come up with your own suggestion instead of just saying "I don't want anything WoW had!" Because whether you want to admit it or not - there is a problem. It is very hard for some people to find groups for flashpoints, whether you're at level 20 or level 50. Server population is a big part of it - but if you think Bioware is really going to merge servers anytime in the near future, then you may be dissapointed.

So for those of you who are against cross-server LFG, tell me what's your solution? Do you have a better idea than spamming the chat channel in Fleet? Do you think the existing LFG tool works fine, or just needs some tweaks? "
So, what's your suggestion? Or do you think the problem is all in our heads?

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genealogymaster
04.02.2012 , 07:48 PM | #982
Quote: Originally Posted by Esproc View Post
Immorality is running rampant with the "I'm not accountable because no one can do any thing" attitude that a X-Server LFG brings with it.
I understand how wonderful things are working for you and I'm happy for you. I can give examples of how people try to take advantage was in one group on a heroic and one person was greeding everything. So what we have now is poor at best.

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Touchbass
04.02.2012 , 07:49 PM | #983
Quote: Originally Posted by Esproc View Post
Immorality is running rampant with the "I'm not accountable because no one can do any thing" attitude that a X-Server LFG brings with it.
There is tons of accountability in X-LFD, I'd say more so then without it. Here's what happens, if you behave poorly and disrupt the group I would remove said person. I never kicked people for stupid reasons or over simple disputes and I saved my kick votes for those who were a real hassle. The problem without a X-LFD is I get stuck with jerks in runs and I can't remove them cause it'll take too long to find a replacemement.
Our lack of a proper LFD tool will black out the sun!
Then we shall cancel our subs in the shade!

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Overtone
04.02.2012 , 07:51 PM | #984
Yes to cross realm LFG tool if they will not merge servers.

If they do merge servers and do it right, then I will be in favor of a LFG realm only tool.
Quote: Originally Posted by cashogy_reborn View Post
If I can use blue 46s armorings/mods/enhancements in all of my armor and mh/oh and have competitive stats in a PvP environment, why cant I use that same gear to be competitive in PvE?
Seems like a double standard to me.

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amantheil
04.02.2012 , 07:52 PM | #985
Quote: Originally Posted by Esproc View Post
I actually read it and they do say "Nothing".

SWTOR is SWTOR, don't make it a clone of a game that people have left to come here, or just go play that other game that has the features you claim are Needed, Fundamental, and Necessary.
SWTOR is SWTOR, but Bioware is being foolish if they don't take a critical and serious look at features from other games, see what has worked and hasn't worked, and make decisions about whether or not features from ADAPTED from another game and MODIFIED to fit SWTOR.

And again, nobody is seriously saying Bioware should just copy and clone Blizzard's functionality and import it into SWTOR. That doesn't mean they can't take features that do work, make adjustments for what doesn't work, and come up with a SWTOR version. They've already done that for about 75% of what's in SWTOR already.

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Esproc
04.02.2012 , 08:05 PM | #986
Quote: Originally Posted by chaosdefined View Post
I never said it was perfect, and I was using that because you and so many others are basing your worries and fears on some bad experiences from that game.
You were using those excuses before I brought in that information, so False statement.

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Amongst all your doomsaying and crying, a lot of us have been trying to come up with some ways that we could take the Cross Server LFD model used by many games and improve upon it.
Like the new developments Blizzard is implementing in hopes of fixing the problem child they created? I don't see that happening with the Poke'mon and Pandarian being added.

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Instead of helping, you've just been crying about that time someone was mean to you in another game. Not very constructive or helpful to anyone really.
What's to help? I don't want any such X-Server LFG, or any such stuff like it. I believe that the Devs should follow their plans for what they had laid out.

People in X-Server were not the only ones devolved from the system. You had plenty of ninjas, EPEEN, and rude obnoxious vile people in LFG, but also, as I stated, just go into Orgrimar or Stormwind and ask for a group. Right, they tell you where to go because they have their one button wonder tool.

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As I keep suggesting, perhaps you should grow up, get over that time you lost out on loot and help to improve this game by coming up with positive ideas, not negative rants.
Grow up? ROFL. A child says that wracked by a stunted emotional growth. An attack to try and prove a better mentality, but fails often.

I am helping to improve this game by fighting against a X-Server LFG Tool that I feel ruins it. If you want all that, go there. If you need all that and they supply it and all you want, why are you here? Is it the "Community" that you and others helped to foster into what a horrid example it has become? Is it because you wanted something new and different? If so why are you trying to make this into something that it isn't? And why are you trying to make it into something worse? Are you the doomsayer that has been wrong so far and wants to rush it along? Do you really think copying something that worked, yes worked, but with way too many drawbacks to make it a truly good tool, or they would not be changing the mechanics of it having seen the down side (Blizz Devs), is the only solution? I differ on that belief, and feel that this is the way to help better the game.
In this Age of Information, Ignorance is a Choice!

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genealogymaster
04.02.2012 , 08:11 PM | #987
Esproc unfortunately you have offered no solution better than X server.

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amantheil
04.02.2012 , 08:13 PM | #988
Quote: Originally Posted by Touchbass View Post
There is tons of accountability in X-LFD, I'd say more so then without it. Here's what happens, if you behave poorly and disrupt the group I would remove said person. I never kicked people for stupid reasons or over simple disputes and I saved my kick votes for those who were a real hassle. The problem without a X-LFD is I get stuck with jerks in runs and I can't remove them cause it'll take too long to find a replacemement.
Well, to be fair - there's nothing that says a solid 'vote to kick' system can ONLY be implemented in X-LFD. You could have that in a 'single-server only' LFD.

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amantheil
04.02.2012 , 08:15 PM | #989
Quote: Originally Posted by Gavin_Darkl View Post
Simple Hard Mode instances should not be Cross server
Leveling instances no problem if they are cross server if and only if servers are merged, AND the first 15 Minutes in Queue it looks for same server then after it goes cross server.
Thanks! It's nice to see someone offer a suggestion :-)

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Gavin_Darkl
04.02.2012 , 08:17 PM | #990
Quote: Originally Posted by ryathal View Post
actually wow had a single server LFG that auto grouped for a most of TBC and part of LK, but it didn't teleport you, it sucked many groups never got to the dungeon before someone left
No it did not Ryathal. It had a Cross Server LFD tool that was it. Before the Cross Server it was a LFG tool that flagged you and you had to create a group off that.