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The question of the month: Will you keep your subscription up? and why?

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The question of the month: Will you keep your subscription up? and why?

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JeramieCrowe
04.01.2012 , 07:39 PM | #211
Quote: Originally Posted by Psycosiis View Post
80% of your "question answering" is a bias opinion in favor of TOR.

As for stating general observations, you're giving an unfavorable opinion (keyword), that you dislike the way WoW and GW2 is going.
I wouldn't deign attempt that. WoW with 11 million subs, and GW2 with some innovative mechanics.

I'm speaking of overall player mentality, as documented by several sources. GW2 PvP mechanics look awesome, if you want my opinion. But not even 4 posts after my post you quoted another person already stated it sucks.

THAT'S my point that you seem to have completely missed. PLAYERS will determine if it's successful or not. And the track record of PvP in MMOs over the last 5 years is not promising. If it doesn't have headshots and 2-hit kills like CoD, it fails.

Just watch. Remember me when you see it, please.
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JeramieCrowe
04.01.2012 , 07:39 PM | #212
Quote: Originally Posted by HammersteinSW View Post
Yeah, but it seemed that there would be more unique storyline per character and not 5% character storyline and 95 % general content which is the same for every single characters.

When I have taken a Bounty Hunter and Sniper through the game then I don't want to level another 2 characters through the same slog that is Alderaan and Taris just to see their story. You could easily wrap up a whole character story in 2-3 long gaming sessions, instead you have to go through the same boring, filling content from 1-50 just to see the story.
I don't, either. That's why I've alternated Republic with Imperial.
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hargrave
04.01.2012 , 07:49 PM | #213
As a open world pvp'r what does 1.2 offer me? Nothing.......I refuse to do warzones until they fix there broken mess of open world. As far as im concerned warzones are the biggest f up in this game they have done nothing positive for pvp there just exploiters/hackers heaven. The game would have been better off just making open world and thats it. Overall i dont see myself coming back gabe ametgelo is a liar and secondly he has to much on his hands to do we need a dedicated pvp team not a guy whos job is flashpoints/operations/pvp/this/that and more. James ohlen is a liar as well with his "we have the best pvp team" yet we cant even tab target properly and no raid assist still. He seems to know more about "whats coming" more then he knows about whats going on atm.

Like i said as a open world pvp'r you are screwed with this game sadly gw2 and others that offer open world pvp with "live youtube footage" not a gm on a stage saying thier games pvp will be 100vs100 with cleverly edited footage while ilum can even do 20vs20...
We have an entire team dedicated to adding content and features to player vs. player. We have some of the most experienced PvP developers in the world on this team.James Ohlen Ilum is bieng reworked as it wasnt a fun or exciting experience

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dooseyboy
04.01.2012 , 07:52 PM | #214
yes, because its fun.
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Nitewolfe
04.01.2012 , 07:53 PM | #215
I have offically cancelled my account.
Reason..... BW dragging their feet on getting a viable group finding tool in game. That along with their stance on it being a single server lfg when it does come out instead of cross server.


Awesome single player game but lacking on the massively multi player parts.

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JeramieCrowe
04.01.2012 , 07:56 PM | #216
Quote: Originally Posted by hargrave View Post
As a open world pvp'r what does 1.2 offer me? Nothing.......I refuse to do warzones until they fix there broken mess of open world. As far as im concerned warzones are the biggest f up in this game they have done nothing positive for pvp there just exploiters/hackers heaven. The game would have been better off just making open world and thats it. Overall i dont see myself coming back gabe ametgelo is a liar and secondly he has to much on his hands to do we need a dedicated pvp team not a guy whos job is flashpoints/operations/pvp/this/that and more. James ohlen is a liar as well with his "we have the best pvp team" yet we cant even tab target properly and no raid assist still. He seems to know more about "whats coming" more then he knows about whats going on atm.

Like i said as a open world pvp'r you are screwed with this game sadly gw2 and others that offer open world pvp with "live youtube footage" not a gm on a stage saying thier games pvp will be 100vs100 with cleverly edited footage while ilum can even do 20vs20...
Is your un going to be the same on the GW2 forum? Because I can't wait to see you complain about GW2 PvP on their forums.
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JeramieCrowe
04.01.2012 , 07:58 PM | #217
Quote: Originally Posted by Nitewolfe View Post
I have offically cancelled my account.
Reason..... BW dragging their feet on getting a viable group finding tool in game. That along with their stance on it being a single server lfg when it does come out instead of cross server.


Awesome single player game but lacking on the massively multi player parts.
I ask this in all honesty, because I haven't found a single one: Please link me to an MMO that launched with an LFG tool. I don't think there's a single one.

Thus, demanding that TOR have one already is quite unrealistic...
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hargrave
04.01.2012 , 08:00 PM | #218
cant complain when they have open world pvp to play and this doesnt.

Quote: Originally Posted by JeramieCrowe View Post
Is your un going to be the same on the GW2 forum? Because I can't wait to see you complain about GW2 PvP on their forums.
We have an entire team dedicated to adding content and features to player vs. player. We have some of the most experienced PvP developers in the world on this team.James Ohlen Ilum is bieng reworked as it wasnt a fun or exciting experience

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OmegaMayhem
04.01.2012 , 08:02 PM | #219
Quote: Originally Posted by hargrave View Post
cant complain when they have open world pvp to play and this doesnt.
This game DOES have open world PvP... players just don't play it.

I've watched videos and talked with people who have played GW2 PvP... you are going to be disappointed.

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JeramieCrowe
04.01.2012 , 08:03 PM | #220
Quote: Originally Posted by hargrave View Post
cant complain when they have open world pvp to play and this doesnt.
And what, exactly, is Open World PvP? Because this thread and poll beautifully illustrates my point. As long as there is an entire playerbase that can't even agree on what Open World PvP is for an MMO, it will always fail, no matter WHAT the developer does.

A developer would have to develop ALL facets of what the playerbase considers "open world" for it to even have a chance to be successful, and even then, you wouldn't have the full participation necessary for success.

GW2 has not done this...
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