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The question of the month: Will you keep your subscription up? and why?

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The question of the month: Will you keep your subscription up? and why?

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NDiggy
04.01.2012 , 06:18 PM | #201
Quote: Originally Posted by JeramieCrowe View Post
The simple fact that you're attempting to compare WoW story and leveling with TOR story and leveling illustrates your first mistake.

This is BioWare, not Blizzard. They've been stating now for over 2 years that playing the storylines is part of the endgame experience. Two years! And you know what? It is.

If you've ever played any other BioWare game, you know that the storyline is their content. Why is it that BioWare sells more games than almost any other developer? STORY.

If you're not here for story, maybe this really isn't the game for you. Georg Zoeller acknowledged that fact in beta:
I kept up with development and rolling alts was not what BW promised this game would be. It was slated to be a traditional MMO with an emphasis on story and voice overs. WoW is a completely valid game to compare TOR to, I have no idea why it wouldn't be. They're both traditional MMOs with endgame gear grinds. Yes, the story is a nice touch in TOR, but that isn't going to keep me around once the story ends at 50. If that really is what BW intends, then they completely miss the point of what MMOs are about.
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JeramieCrowe
04.01.2012 , 06:59 PM | #202
Quote: Originally Posted by NDiggy View Post
I kept up with development and rolling alts was not what BW promised this game would be. It was slated to be a traditional MMO with an emphasis on story and voice overs. WoW is a completely valid game to compare TOR to, I have no idea why it wouldn't be. They're both traditional MMOs with endgame gear grinds. Yes, the story is a nice touch in TOR, but that isn't going to keep me around once the story ends at 50. If that really is what BW intends, then they completely miss the point of what MMOs are about.
Rolling alts and playing the other 7 UNIQUE storylines absolutely IS one of the facets they explicitly stated was part of the endgame. Along with an endgame planet dedicated to level 50 solo play, HM FP's, Ops, and warzones. Why the hell do you think they gave us 8 character slots out the gate? With more character slots coming??

They delivered EXACTLY what they promised.
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Touchbass
04.01.2012 , 07:03 PM | #203
Quote: Originally Posted by JeramieCrowe View Post
Rolling alts and playing the other 7 UNIQUE storylines absolutely IS one of the facets they explicitly stated was part of the endgame. Along with an endgame planet dedicated to level 50 solo play, HM FP's, Ops, and warzones. Why the hell do you think they gave us 8 character slots out the gate? With more character slots coming??

They delivered EXACTLY what they promised.
lol ... lol. 7 unique story lines that are a fraction of the levelling process
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JeramieCrowe
04.01.2012 , 07:06 PM | #204
Quote: Originally Posted by Touchbass View Post
lol ... lol. 7 unique story lines that are a fraction of the levelling process
That is...mostly true. I'm not contending that fact at all. If you want me to find the quote where BioWare stated that playing the other storylines is part of their endgame, I can.

However, if you play a Republic character all the way to 50, you can start an Imperial character, and not repeat a single shred of content all the way to 50. The only questline that skirts the edge of that is the Tatooine Rakata storyline. Technically, it's different content, though.

Still, this game was always been more about story than anything else. ALWAYS. There is no two-ways about that fact.
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finkelmana
04.01.2012 , 07:10 PM | #205
I had actually cancelled my sub the night before it expired. But some friends still in the game convinced me to stay. Im starting to regret it. I decided to roll a new character, the questing is ok, but leveling my previous character is still to fresh. A new storyline thrown in with all the quests I just did, doesnt make it fun. Im still unable to get groups for flashpoints or heroics.

On my "main," I still have many hour queue times for pvp and the population is deader than ever. There was a brief point where the population was "booming" - 30 people on fleet, now its down into the 10s.

Ive gotten into a few Ops, but I already have all the columni gear. Hard Ops are rare to come by.

If nothing changes, then my sub will be cancelled.

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HammersteinSW
04.01.2012 , 07:13 PM | #206
Quote: Originally Posted by JeramieCrowe View Post
Rolling alts and playing the other 7 UNIQUE storylines absolutely IS one of the facets they explicitly stated was part of the endgame. Along with an endgame planet dedicated to level 50 solo play, HM FP's, Ops, and warzones. Why the hell do you think they gave us 8 character slots out the gate? With more character slots coming??

They delivered EXACTLY what they promised.
Yeah, but it seemed that there would be more unique storyline per character and not 5% character storyline and 95 % general content which is the same for every single characters.

When I have taken a Bounty Hunter and Sniper through the game then I don't want to level another 2 characters through the same slog that is Alderaan and Taris just to see their story. You could easily wrap up a whole character story in 2-3 long gaming sessions, instead you have to go through the same boring, filling content from 1-50 just to see the story.

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JGames
04.01.2012 , 07:17 PM | #207
I am keeping my subscription. The game is fun and is my first serious MMO that I have ever played (I played Pirates "MMO" before, but it was kinda a joke to this one). I think it will be better in the near future anyhow, which makes me want to stay more.
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Psycosiis
04.01.2012 , 07:27 PM | #208
Quote: Originally Posted by JeramieCrowe View Post
I certainly hope that's not what it looks like I'm even trying attempt, because I'm not. I'm just answering questions. And stating general observations that affect all games, not just TOR.
80% of your "question answering" is a bias opinion in favor of TOR.

As for stating general observations, you're giving an unfavorable opinion (keyword), that you dislike the way WoW and GW2 is going.

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SlaveV
04.01.2012 , 07:30 PM | #209
I am sticking with this game for a longgggggg time; I stand by it. It blows away ANY MMO I have ever played at launch, so I can only imagine what is in store for the future.
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Raeken
04.01.2012 , 07:38 PM | #210
Game starts to get boring ... always the same 3 battlegrounds and no open pvp and there's just one new battleground in 1.2 ... but I will give it a chance and keep subbed. Hoping for better open pvp and more bg's ...