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justduet
03.30.2012 , 10:09 AM | #181
Its a themepark alright, but not a bad foundation.. they just need to add in more random time sinks to keep people doing stuff. I hate to bring up "that other game" but they had stuff like minipets to farm, baseline profs like cooking and fishing to herp derp around with, etc. A lot of small "meaningless" activities like that can keep a lot of people occupied.

Aside from that, the game is what I expected and it can only be improved (unless Bioware majorly messes up).
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mattgyver
03.30.2012 , 10:14 AM | #182
Quote: Originally Posted by justduet View Post
Its a themepark alright, but not a bad foundation.. they just need to add in more random time sinks to keep people doing stuff. I hate to bring up "that other game" but they had stuff like minipets to farm, baseline profs like cooking and fishing to herp derp around with, etc. A lot of small "meaningless" activities like that can keep a lot of people occupied.

Aside from that, the game is what I expected and it can only be improved (unless Bioware majorly messes up).
I could live with the improvements you suggest, and I don't think they would hurt anybody.

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DalrisThane
03.30.2012 , 01:11 PM | #183
Deleted. No point. Everyone is TLDR these days. +See Sig.
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mattgyver
04.01.2012 , 12:34 PM | #185
Voted

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chrisftw
04.01.2012 , 12:34 PM | #186
Quote: Originally Posted by Lord_Ravenhurst View Post
Here is a POLL where you can vote on what you prefer:

http://www.easypolls.net/poll.html?p...b05fc2576661ac

Please leave a reply if you voted.
lol i read the choices you made up.

very jaded responses its either

option 1 - I'm a fanboy
option 2 - i want a sandbox
option 3 - i'm a fanboy
option 4 - exact same as option 3

where's the unbiased polls? how about

option 1 - i prefer theam park
option 2 - i like sandbox
Tell me more Brotholomew.

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mattgyver
04.01.2012 , 12:37 PM | #187
Quote: Originally Posted by chrisftw View Post
lol i read the choices you made up.

very jaded responses its either

option 1 - I'm a fanboy
option 2 - i want a sandbox
option 3 - i'm a fanboy
option 4 - exact same as option 3

where's the unbiased polls? how about

option 1 - i prefer theam park
option 2 - i like sandbox
So you didn't vote. Polls are just polls, you can't put up an assessment tool to answer this question. We all know how polls work.

Option 1 was representative of many of the responses in this thread.
Option 2 was a compromise position
Option 3 was based on those who have unsubbed and are participating but really don't think this game can change to accommodate them.
Option 4 is for SW fanboys, a category which I associate with, but doesn't drive my decisions all that much.

hope that helps

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chrisftw
04.01.2012 , 12:43 PM | #188
Quote: Originally Posted by mattgyver View Post
So you didn't vote. Polls are just polls, you can't put up an assessment tool to answer this question. We all know how polls work.

Option 1 was representative of many of the responses in this thread.
Option 2 was a compromise position
Option 3 was based on those who have unsubbed and are participating but really don't think this game can change to accommodate them.
Option 4 is for SW fanboys, a category which I associate with, but doesn't drive my decisions all that much.

hope that helps
/yawn

troll on playa.

i wont bother you and your amazing poll which indicates 100% accuracy what the community wants needs.

gotta love the bitter spite in the first option though.
Tell me more Brotholomew.

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Goretzu
04.01.2012 , 12:45 PM | #189
Quote: Originally Posted by DalrisThane View Post
I’ll agree that there is something wrong with suits, Hollywood and gaming both.

Although Independent games and movies have much more quality, and can be successful in their own measured way, being a “nice little success” is no longer acceptable. It’s blockbuster or bust.

Heck, if you look at the TV industry, creativity is no longer valued. You aren’t given a chance to grow. It’s “Great ratings right off the gate, or you’re cancelled”. I forget which TV exec said it, but, paraphrased =

“We can cancel 100 sitcoms 2-4 episodes in, but if we get just one other ‘Friends’ we come up ahead. That’s why shows have to perform great, or we try another formula. It’s good business.”

Apply that to gaming, which is already more niche of an entertainment than TV/Movies, then add the fact that MMO is far more niche within gaming (as opposed to sports game X) and I can’t see innovation being tried.

Because, as much as I want to 100% blame the suits, in reality, the suits report to the shareholders, and shareholders don’t give a you know what about the products. Some probably haven’t gamed once (for MMO shareholders, say). It’s all about Return On Investment.

It doesn’t matter to them that WoW happened once in the history of gaming… it’s “I want WoW level profits. Make it happen.” When money > quality, you’re going to get formula.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1jdG2LHair0

is about storytelling, but apply the investor logic to innovative games (it’s past the half way mark ish) and you’ll see why investors want the formula.

I’m not trying to be gloom and doom, but, these days, being right loses to being profitable. And being a quality independent game with a tidy profit… sadly… is not considered acceptable. As per movies, it’s…

Blockbuster level profit… or bust and try the same formula with a different skin… again…

A fella in italy mathmatically prove that within most corporate environments the business would do better promoting randomly than using their current system.

This probably has a fair bit to do with it too.
Real Star Wars space combat please, not Star Wars Fox! Maybe some PvP and flight too?
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mattgyver
04.01.2012 , 12:50 PM | #190
Quote: Originally Posted by chrisftw View Post
/yawn

troll on playa.

i wont bother you and your amazing poll which indicates 100% accuracy what the community wants needs.

gotta love the bitter spite in the first option though.
nice use of the "Nuh Uh" startegy. Not going to vote I guess? Any chance you will post your opinion or just want to sit in the gallery and make forum emotes?
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