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ARENAS/Death match....NOW

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Anbokr
03.31.2012 , 03:42 AM | #171
Death match please. Elitist attitudes surrounding lol "objective" based warzones has infected these forums. One of the things that kept WoW going so long was arena PvP--it's fun, addicting, and easy to get in to.

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Proppa
03.31.2012 , 03:45 AM | #172
It's not an elitist attitude, but unless things are far more balanced PVP wise, a death match warzone would be a joke. Imagine full bm's vs fresh 50's for example :P

Give everyone equal gear, so it is ALL skill based, then its a different kettle of fish, but the way the game is at the moment, it seems pointless.
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broganthomas
03.31.2012 , 03:50 AM | #173
Quote: Originally Posted by Proppa View Post
But on the other hand, too many options can be a bad thing depending on the population.

As it stands my server is nigh on dead, its the same group of people queueing each time. If Arena's were in too, the queues would take forever.

But yes, cross server queues will aleviate most of the problems.

But personally, I just never enjoyed setup fights, to me the ranking from arena's would mean little, as it's almost the same as kill trading. Not quite as bad, but its XvX all the time, you don't have to worry that you will get more people add etc. To me that was all the excitement.

I shouldn't be opposed to the idea, but there are far more important issues I'd rather see addressed first.
After the pre-season rated warzones(Patch 1.2), they are releasing cross servers for season 1 rated warzones. By that time it will not matter about population on the different servers.

http://www.swtor.com/blog/pvp-game-update-1.2

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broganthomas
03.31.2012 , 03:53 AM | #174
Quote: Originally Posted by Proppa View Post
It's not an elitist attitude, but unless things are far more balanced PVP wise, a death match warzone would be a joke. Imagine full bm's vs fresh 50's for example :P

Give everyone equal gear, so it is ALL skill based, then its a different kettle of fish, but the way the game is at the moment, it seems pointless.
But so was Arena really(Sorry superproplayers here), unless you got paid doing it but that isn't the scope of this thread. Again, I'd like to see something like it because it was fun.

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Didy_Kush
03.31.2012 , 03:54 AM | #175
Huttball hello?

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ChaosDogg
03.31.2012 , 03:57 AM | #176
Quote: Originally Posted by Proppa View Post
But on the other hand, too many options can be a bad thing depending on the population.

As it stands my server is nigh on dead, its the same group of people queueing each time. If Arena's were in too, the queues would take forever.

But yes, cross server queues will aleviate most of the problems.

But personally, I just never enjoyed setup fights, to me the ranking from arena's would mean little, as it's almost the same as kill trading. Not quite as bad, but its XvX all the time, you don't have to worry that you will get more people add etc. To me that was all the excitement.

I shouldn't be opposed to the idea, but there are far more important issues I'd rather see addressed first.
Treat the forums as a point for constructive discussion, not a personal rant or blog. The only thing you have said that actually contributes a lot to the thread is your last sentence.

You sound like you've never done arena or have played it at a level where you know what you're doing yet you are ranting about why you don't like it. I have never played DAOC before which is why I don't comment on it. Since I actually try to engage in world pvp a lot and WZ and did RBG and arena, I can actually form an opinion from personal experience on most aspects of PvP. Arena should be implemented because it is another avenue of play. I never liked RBG in WoW but I did it with friends and I would always contend it was a good addition to the game. If you give people more ways to play what they like such as PvP, the happier they will be.

Stop derailing the topic with how you think rankings from XvX won't show skill. No, rankings don't tell the whole story about how good a player is, but if you are a better player you are more likely to beat another person consistently. Comps and counters obviously diminish this argument but the point still stands. Do you think that Roger Federer years ago wasn't undisputedly better than other tennis players because he didn't play in a wheelchair?

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broganthomas
03.31.2012 , 04:05 AM | #177
Quote: Originally Posted by ChaosDogg View Post
Treat the forums as a point for constructive discussion, not a personal rant or blog. The only thing you have said that actually contributes a lot to the thread is your last sentence.

You sound like you've never done arena or have played it at a level where you know what you're doing yet you are ranting about why you don't like it. I have never played DAOC before which is why I don't comment on it. Since I actually try to engage in world pvp a lot and did RBG and arena, I can actually form an opinion from personal experience on most aspects of PvP. Arena should be implemented because it is another avenue of play. I never liked RBG in WoW but I did it with friends and I would always contend it was a good addition to the game. If you give people more ways to play what they like such as PvP, the happier they will be.

Stop derailing the topic with how you think rankings from XvX won't show skill. No, rankings don't tell the whole story about how good a player is, but if you are a better player you are more likely to beat another person consistently. Comps and counters obviously diminish this argument but the point still stands. Do you think that Roger Federer years ago wasn't undisputedly better than other tennis players because he didn't play in a wheelchair?
Agreed, this game is still software, and were paying for a service, it'd just be an additional feature that does in fact have an audience.

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TheNotorius
03.31.2012 , 04:26 AM | #178
The posts about:

"Arena is more difficult than warzones, it needs more skill"
and
"Warzones are more skill based, you need to take care of objectives too"

Will do NOTHING but derail the thread. The debate it's not about what's harder to play.

Someone like playing Warzones more, someone like to play Open world PVP and someone like Arena. Can't all these people have their favorite type of PVP implemented?

(PS: I feel sorry for who likes Open World PVP too, but at least devs are redesigning Ilum)
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Nessirin
03.31.2012 , 04:38 AM | #179
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Ummm no... the greatest PvPers in the world play RTS and FPS games.
Lol, This. QFT. MMO e-sports rofl. Lets see who can bash better on the healer for 10 minutes.
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Anbokr
03.31.2012 , 04:42 AM | #180
Quote: Originally Posted by Proppa View Post
It's not an elitist attitude, but unless things are far more balanced PVP wise, a death match warzone would be a joke. Imagine full bm's vs fresh 50's for example :P

Give everyone equal gear, so it is ALL skill based, then its a different kettle of fish, but the way the game is at the moment, it seems pointless.
Ok. What makes this any different than warzones? I suppose you want everyone who enters a warzone to have the same exact stats/gear/abilities for "balance." Come on man.