ARENAS/Death match....NOW

The place you're looking for is Outlaws Den.

Well good, if there are that many people interested in small scale PVP, then that in itself is more then enough of reason to add an Arena type system. This isn't about who has SUPER SKILLZ, but having the option to pay how I would like to.

Even if the entire forum population wanted arena, that's prob less than 5% of the 2mil+ subscribers. So how is a few threads by the same people over and over constitute "alot" of people?
Instead of wasting your time just arguing with me about something you havent seen yet, go look at the threads and videos that are already out there. Maybe you will see my point, regardless of whether you will agree with it or not.

I am all for them creating a room and letting these "people" that want it, DM it out in there, make it seperate from regular WZ que's so that if you dont want to DM you dont have to.

That will get some of these noobs out of the WZ's that like to fight out in the middle ignoring the objectives then tell everyone how leet they are and how everyone else sucks cause they lost.

And those that are saying that DM arena's are more challenging PvP than objective based WZ's...well in DM arenas, you have to worry about killing the other team more than they kill you, no real strat, stick together, watch each others backs and try to assist train ftw. in objective based WZ's, you have to worry about all that plus completing the objective and preventing the other team from completing it.

Objective based WZ's just require one step of thought more than your average DM'r can manage, proof of this, watch when defending in voidstar, there is allways some glowstick wielding monkey out there fighting 50m or more away from the doors while the other team caps the door, thats your average DM'r right there.

I would be for it, if everyone of these "people" that wanted arena be banned from ever posting anything on the forum.

Again, only people I see calling for nerfs are war zone related.. And not the results of some small tournament no one has even heard of.

Most of those WZ related nerf crys mention at some point their "experience" in 1v1 situation vs the class in question. So yea the cry for nerf originates from something that happens in a WZ, but the basis for it is still the same 1v1 balance mentality that this game just isnt built on.

It was designed as a team based, team balanced game, if they meant it to be a 1v1 balanced game then every class would have access to some form of in combat heal.

No, the guy who fights in the middle of nowhere is the average idiot.

I wish people would stop comparing a WZ to arena when they have no idea what they are talking about. Small scale pvp and WZ emphasize different skillsets but in a large fight, the individual's ability to affect the outcome of the match is limited, which is why you can carry a few bad players in your group as long as they can listen to instructions.

Small scale deathmatch is to an extent quite the opposite. You have to be able to play well individually because you don't have 4 to 5 other people zerging one target with you or supporting you and dying matters a lot because it almost guarantees a loss. You also have to consider the fact that not everyone has a great computer to run WZ with respectable fps and other players certainly do not like playing with randoms in a group so they would much rather arena.

I think they should add arena eventually, but they need to consider how to implement it well. If people want to make arguments against arena, at least have some valid points like Knockerz instead of nonsensical bashing. I'm not trying to talk down on the skills of people who rather do WZ type pvp rather than arena, but that's just my observations.

So blame dueling and remove it from the game, but on a serious note, even in WZ you'll have a moment or two where you'll find yourself in a 1v1, and they'll still come here and cry.

You think that people would not cry nerf even w/out an Arena? Of course they would; they do right now.

No, you obviously acknowledge this happens whether they exist or not, so how does having an Arena setup make this any different whatsoever?