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ARENAS/Death match....NOW

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LillyWhiteS
03.30.2012 , 08:59 PM | #131
Quote: Originally Posted by KhealThar View Post
Arena would create a huge community that isn't strictly server based. Arenajunkies.com is an example, a huge arena community from World of Warcraft.

They can have arena while also having large scale pvp battles you know. They can balance the game around Arena for the more competitive people and have huge fun battles for the guys who just want to work as a huge team to beat another.

The game could be completely unbalanced in 3v3/4v4 and you wouldn't even notice it in 100v100.

Arena would have little to no effect on world pvp.
Who knows after World PvP that could be looked at for variety, World PvP should be the priority, rated PvP is at least something for those that like arena and small organised teams, where as those that like the big scale team stuff have nothing with the failure that is Ilum and that is why my friends left TOR as it happens.

Myself, I ain't interested in who is the best individual or small team, that would play a part in my thinking of course, I like big scale stuff, having multiple warbands/ops working together for hours.
Need a Variety of Warzone size/participants/objectives, something like an Alterac Valley.

Warhammer may have messed it up, but the idea of forts and the reward was sound, fix Ilum.

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LillyWhiteS
03.30.2012 , 09:05 PM | #132
Quote: Originally Posted by Varicite View Post
I'm definitely not opposed to larger-scale PvP battles like you're talking about in your first paragraph, but I don't know that the game engine can handle that. <.<

I'd love to see large-scale world PvP, Warzones, and Thunderdome-style "Two teams enter, one team leaves!" type PvP all coexist happily in this game.

I don't think that's too much to ask for, given enough time. It doesn't have to be right now, but eventually it would be pretty awesome if they found a way to make them all work.

Then we can all be happy doing what we like, right? And people like me will be happy doing a bit of all 3. : )
Yeah the engine part is certainly something that worries me in big scale PvP

In the end it prob wouldn't hurt to have all forms of PvP, as long as the best stat gear isn't saved for arena, although they still need something, titles, appearance etc, but I still think World PvP should be the priority.
Need a Variety of Warzone size/participants/objectives, something like an Alterac Valley.

Warhammer may have messed it up, but the idea of forts and the reward was sound, fix Ilum.

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xChroniCx
03.30.2012 , 09:16 PM | #133
Please add arenas/deathmatch pvp, some of us like deathmatch pvp and most good games offer multiple variations of pvp.

To the people saying no for no reason, you don't have to participate. I don't want any extra gear than what the ranked warzones would provide. You may like playing sabotage in cod, others like deathmatch.

To the people saying to go play in Outlaws Den, all it takes is one stealth class griefer to completely ruin tournaments. The one successful 3v3 tournament we had was probably the most fun I've had in this game.

p.s. This is an mmo, gladiators from WoW are going to be the best pvpers in this game. Sorry if you struggled for challenger titles each season
Mateo Matias

Hutts Don't Have Feet

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Pantheros
03.30.2012 , 09:38 PM | #134
Quote: Originally Posted by xNonphixionx View Post
Deathmatching is for people with no brain.

So many people are bad at objective PVP because they are used to smashing their face against a keyboard to get wins in WOW. Now that they actually need to think about what they are doing it's the end of the world.
Actually most battlegrounds in WoW took way more co-ordination and were more complex than anything swtor currently offers sans huttball. And huttball is really just a modified capture the flag so no leaps and bounds there.

But yea, you either need competitive pvp or engaging open world pvp to keep pvpers around (and god knows engaging open world pvp is a LONG ways off). Rated battlegrounds are a start, arena's will help. I stopped playing around a month ago because I can only do the same 3 warzones so many times with no incentive. Sub ends in June if rated warzones don't cut it.

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napalmninja
03.30.2012 , 09:54 PM | #135
This is like an argument over whether Call of Duty or Battlefield has better multiplayer.

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broganthomas
03.30.2012 , 09:59 PM | #136
I just think, with the engine that has performance issues with player models and large area rendering, small scale pvp wouldn't be game breaking, but an improvement for some. For those with "low end" machines could pvp, and not suffer from complete crap frames. With smaller maps, plus limiting the number of players/spell effects I don't see how it could be a bad thing.

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xNonphixionx
03.30.2012 , 10:04 PM | #137
Quote: Originally Posted by Swidgin View Post
This ^

It has to be a balance issue, Because like you said....It only takes a room and the PVPers do the rest.

I don't understand why it's taking so long, Kind of annoying if you ask me.

But look how long it took BW to get ride of PASSIVE Dam stopping you from capping.

This could take them some time. I mean they have to CREAT a WHOLE ROOM!
Its taking so long because they arent going to add it and have no intentions on adding that POS.

There's a reason pretty much every mmo on the market doesnt have arenas. Because arena PVP is HORRIBLE lol. And before you tell me "How could it be horrible? wow has 500 million subscribers?" All I can say is...Justin Bieber has sold 500 million records...Does that mean he's good?

WOW is the Michael Jackson of mmo's. It sucks even though it sells millions. It mostly attracts little boys. And it's dead.

/endthread

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broganthomas
03.30.2012 , 10:08 PM | #138
I just think, with the engine that has performance issues with player models and large area rendering, small scale pvp wouldn't be game breaking, but an improvement for some. For those with "low end" machines could pvp, and not suffer from complete crap frames. With smaller maps, plus limiting the number of players/spell effects I don't see how it could be a bad thing.

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Swidgin
03.30.2012 , 10:42 PM | #139
Quote: Originally Posted by xNonphixionx View Post
Its taking so long because they arent going to add it and have no intentions on adding that POS.

There's a reason pretty much every mmo on the market doesnt have arenas. Because arena PVP is HORRIBLE lol. And before you tell me "How could it be horrible? wow has 500 million subscribers?" All I can say is...Justin Bieber has sold 500 million records...Does that mean he's good?

WOW is the Michael Jackson of mmo's. It sucks even though it sells millions. It mostly attracts little boys. And it's dead.

/endthread
LOL I know it's coming....

My point is why it's taking so long.......

And when It does come I'm sorry you have to walk around with a bad rating I really am....
Angry, Nasally kid with braces (VOICE) "I want my ARENAS BW!"

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Agooz
03.30.2012 , 11:16 PM | #140
Quote: Originally Posted by broganthomas View Post
Well I hope you're right, because right now I have yet to see a valid reason for not having smaller scale pvp battles other than some people don't care for them.. The only reasons for not having this option, mentioned by others are that it would ruin class balance, even though we already see people whining about balance in warzones. And worse, rated warzones aren't even out yet, so I know there is a flood of tears to come about balance.
The reason was stated many times, you just refuse to accept it. Arena is ALREADY available. Take your 3 buddies, and challenge any other 4 on tatooine. Search google, you will see plenty of videos of these swtor tournaments. You might even stumble on the 50+ pages threads that had already been up on the pvp forum with QQing galore about what classes needs to be nerfed, and how Sorc are so squishy and need a major buff, ALL as a result of some stupid arena tournament (3v3 AND 4v4) that showed ZERO skill level.