ARENAS/Death match....NOW

I said no REWARDS or gear, so I didn't mean it should be rated; here, there will be no RATINGS/rewards/gear/fun/bragging rights so calm down, I and others already do 2v2/3v3 for no personal gain other then the pure enjoyment out of it so why can't we have the option for them? Jesus, you know some people played Arena for fun and didn't take it personal, right? It's a game, you'll get over it the next day(Hopefully). Again, if it didn't have ratings or rewards, who cares?

I thought this was just special!

Why not just come right out and say

"I'm bad at arenas. I have to hide behind 7 others in a BIG WZ where no one can see me make a misstake. If it's a SMALL group then I'll actually have to do things that are PRO to win, and I can't be asked to do that!"

Thank you for confirming the childish nature of the likes of you.

Lol, troll? WoW PvP has a pathetic skill cap, try an FPS or RTS then get back to me, even a fighting game has more depth.

No, you're right, this was really mature. The pot calling the kettle black.

RTS I agree, but not really the PVP I was talking about...

BUT LOL @ FPS...and u ask if I'm a troll?

So what if he is bad or whatever. You can't have an elite player base without a bottom. What worst you type of attitude is exactly why a lot of players who may not be that great in pvp stop pvping. What do you think will happen to arena if bottom or majority of bads stop participating or worst leave the game? What you get is what's happen in wow arena. There is no bottom. It's like raids in bc for wow, the most hardcore raiders ran sunwell, but in pvp it's more like only the most hardcore do arenas any more. At any rate, loss of participation means less resources for arena and lack of interest on the part of the developers . Thus, arena is stale in wow.

Ultimately,mmorpg are about making money not about who is the most skill at this game. If bad players choose to protest with their wallets it doesn't matter how much you scream major changes will be made like gear normalization, reduction in rewards for top players, or more hardline changes that benefit the bads as you call them.


I don't really care if arenas are put in game or not, but I don't want BW to use resources for arenas. That is the problem many of us have with arena's being implemented. Now if people who want arenas were charged extra or payed a one time fee and if the numbers were great enough to pay for arena's development I would have no problem. However, it's rather dubious for some you to push the arena agenda when their are no solid evidence that their is enough of a demand for arenas in the general population to justify it's creation.


My guess is there isn't enough of demand for arenas in the swtor population to warrant it's creation or else the developers would have already done it. As usual the arena pvp crowd is always a very loud vocal minority in the forums. You can make as many threads as you want, but arena isn't exactly popular in wow or any mmorpg at moment. If you really want to arena why don't you go to the outlaw den or just make your own player driven arena system? It isn't about arena for you, but about the recognition and epeen factor as usual.

If arenas get implemented using development resources I will quit since there are more important issues in pvp or pve, than a junk arena system for a system that will probably non existent in mmorpgs in the future. If you want an mmorpg to listen to you, you need to answer with your wallet. Thus, this thread is a complete waste of time. Now if BW considers people who want arena expendable, then your numbers never mattered.

Well I hope you're right, because right now I have yet to see a valid reason for not having smaller scale pvp battles other than some people don't care for them.. The only reasons for not having this option, mentioned by others are that it would ruin class balance, even though we already see people whining about balance in warzones. And worse, rated warzones aren't even out yet, so I know there is a flood of tears to come about balance.

Um, this is requested almost every single day. There are a lot more people who are in favor of small-scale PvP deathmatch-style play than you are taking into account.

They are going to use resources to make it happen eventually, it's a given. It's really only a matter of time.

Also, your "answer w/ your wallet" part makes absolutely no sense, because if everyone who wants an Arena system quits playing, obviously it will never happen. Which is exactly what you want, I take it. I don't feel like playing another game; I like SWTOR, I paid for SWTOR, and I enjoy the PvP in SWTOR. Sometimes I'd like to do some PvP that isn't entirely focused on objectives. I know, what a bastard I am!

I've answered why Outlaws' Den is not ideal for players a few times in this thread already. It's the same reason Ilum is empty, even though there are plenty of people who love world PvP.

Maybe everyone else considers the issues you care about to be "junk", but I'm sure you'd still like to see them dealt w/.

I personally would love to see small-scale skirmishes implemented, and as a paying customer, I have every right in the world to request that, just like they have every right to deny it.

But they won't, because they're already working on how to implement it, I assure you.

4 v 4 small map death match with optional queuing wouldn't hurt anyone. Lower rewards due to time length.

Those who want to play it, go ahead. Objective based PvP is great but sometimes players want to kill others, without having to keep an eye on a door/turret. If you don't like, don't queue for it.