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DarthTHC
03.30.2012 , 11:32 AM | #601
Quote: Originally Posted by DeadlyConqueror View Post
Are you playing WoW or TOR lol?

I'm asking because your acting (and not only yours) towards this discussion demonstrates that you want the same identical features, copy-pasted from WoW to TOR.
BW could do a lot worse than to implement their own LFG feature exactly as it's implemented in WoW.

For example, they could do nothing and leave players on every server that's not High population with great difficulty in finding groups.

Or they could implement a single-server tool and leave players on low population servers (over 80% of NA servers) screwed.

So, yah, let's start with the WoW tool as a blueprint and see if there's anything we can to to help reduce the occurrence of bad behavior, like maybe making our roll-for-loot tool a bit smarter or changing the way loot is distributed in flashpoints.

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DeadlyConqueror
03.30.2012 , 11:34 AM | #602
Quote: Originally Posted by DarthTHC View Post
BW could do a lot worse than to implement their own LFG feature exactly as it's implemented in WoW.

For example, they could do nothing and leave players on every server that's not High population with great difficulty in finding groups.
You know they will not.



Quote: Originally Posted by DarthTHC View Post
So, yah, let's start with the WoW tool as a blueprint and see if there's anything we can to to help reduce the occurrence of bad behavior, like maybe making our roll-for-loot tool a bit smarter.
You see?

You said what i stated. You want TOR to be a WoW clone.

The community doesn't want that.

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Valkirus
03.30.2012 , 11:36 AM | #603
Quote: Originally Posted by DeadlyConqueror View Post
Are you playing WoW or TOR lol?

I'm asking because your acting (and not only yours) towards this discussion demonstrates that you want the same identical features, copy-pasted from WoW to TOR.
Both. And what is wrong with TOR having some of the good features of WOW or vice versa? I am not a WOW hater. And I want TOR to succeed and be around for a long time to come.
Trust is something which is earned.

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Touchbass
03.30.2012 , 11:38 AM | #604
Quote: Originally Posted by DeadlyConqueror View Post
You know they will not.


You see?

You said what i stated. You want TOR to be a WoW clone.

The community doesn't want that.

How is this not a WoW clone already, pretty much feels the same to me. What's wrong with copying the most successful MMORPG of all time? Are you up in arms over combat logs and dual spec coming as well? They're coming here, or you just trying to gloss over your hatred of the LFD with an idealistic stance that makes you come off as noble?

EDIT: And how on earth do you know what the "community wants", I see 3-4x more times the interest in WoW related features from people who oppose them. I know several people who play both games concurrently and wish they could switch full-time to SWTOR but can't because it's still lacking in certain areas
Our lack of a proper LFD tool will black out the sun!
Then we shall cancel our subs in the shade!

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DarthTHC
03.30.2012 , 11:39 AM | #605
Quote: Originally Posted by DeadlyConqueror View Post
You know they will not.

Or they could implement a single-server tool and leave players on low population servers (over 80% of NA servers) screwed.



You see?

You said what i stated. You want TOR to be a WoW clone.

The community doesn't want that.
Nope. I never said I want all of TOR to be a WoW clone. Stop putting words into my mouth and making assumptions.

I want TOR to have useful features that WoW has, that make the game more fun, more pleasant, less boring, and less frustrating.

I don't want the WoW setting. I don't want the WoW crafting system, though SWTOR's is pretty close to it.

I would actually be completely in favor of any sort of implementation of anything that would help me find a flashpoint group in 15 minutes or less. But of the different things I can imagine, cross-server LFG is the most reasonable to solve the problem.

I also want other features from WoW to be implemented into TOR, like guild banks.

But, hey, if you hate WoW so much that you want to ensure SWTOR never gets any features WoW has, you probably hate TOR so much you shouldn't be playing it. I mean, there are button bars and quests and it's an MMO and there are 2 sides with a built in conflict and there's pvp and there's a pvp group finder tool and there's ingame mail and a way to sell goods to other players and there's crafting and the trinity and... my fingers are getting tired.

Just because a feature is in WoW doesn't mean it's evil. Actually, it means it might be pretty good or 10M people would have raised Caine when the feature went in, right?

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Valkirus
03.30.2012 , 11:41 AM | #606
Quote: Originally Posted by DarthTHC View Post
Nope. I never said I want all of TOR to be a WoW clone. Stop putting words into my mouth and making assumptions.

I want TOR to have useful features that WoW has, that make the game more fun, more pleasant, less boring, and less frustrating.

I don't want the WoW setting. I don't want the WoW crafting system, though SWTOR's is pretty close to it.

I would actually be completely in favor of any sort of implementation of anything that would help me find a flashpoint group in 15 minutes or less. But of the different things I can imagine, cross-server LFG is the most reasonable to solve the problem.

I also want other features from WoW to be implemented into TOR, like guild banks.

But, hey, if you hate WoW so much that you want to ensure SWTOR never gets any features WoW has, you probably hate TOR so much you shouldn't be playing it. I mean, there are button bars and quests and it's an MMO and there are 2 sides with a built in conflict and there's pvp and there's a pvp group finder tool and there's ingame mail and a way to sell goods to other players and there's crafting and the trinity and... my fingers are getting tired.

Just because a feature is in WoW doesn't mean it's evil. Actually, it means it might be pretty good or 10M people would have raised Caine when the feature went in, right?
None could have said it better. Well done.
Trust is something which is earned.

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Touchbass
03.30.2012 , 11:42 AM | #607
Sometimes when I get home from work at 2am in the morning I'd like to be able to find a group consistently instead of being SOL most of the time. You'll have to excuse me though, where I'm from women are allowed to vote so it's confusing for me not being able to vote in this country
Our lack of a proper LFD tool will black out the sun!
Then we shall cancel our subs in the shade!

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DarthKhaos
03.30.2012 , 11:46 AM | #608
Quote: Originally Posted by Valkirus View Post
You donot have to miss that with a LFG tool. Plus....remember your experences are not the only ones Bioware has to consider. And not everyone PVP's. BioWare needs to consider the amount of players who are flustrated in trying to find groups to experence end game content in TOR. If they ignore that, then they will fail.
You completely missed the point. Unless you start seeing people on a regular bases trust me you don't really remember them. It's not about me. This was just an example from my personal experience. This extends to PvE also. It has been said before that people remember the movers and shakers on their server, both in PvP & PvE.
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terminova
03.30.2012 , 12:03 PM | #609
Quote: Originally Posted by Touchbass View Post
How is this not a WoW clone already, pretty much feels the same to me. What's wrong with copying the most successful MMORPG of all time?
I could say they took the concept of the KOTOR series and applied it to a MMO which is what they did. If anything, they cloned their own game and turned it into a MMO using a different engine.
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Skyrill
03.30.2012 , 12:06 PM | #610
no cross server lfg tool please, and no cross server battlegrounds too, specialy not in pvpRP servers! it will kill life on the server, it happened in wow... you're warned!
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