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No Cross Realm LFG tool please!


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Touchbass
03.29.2012 , 10:27 PM | #481
Keep up the good work Ferroz
Our lack of a proper LFD tool will black out the sun!
Then we shall cancel our subs in the shade!

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Reevax
03.29.2012 , 11:32 PM | #482
I have never actually seen a real reason against the LFD. People like to just use the same old arguments over and over when in fact it just comes down to an irrational hate for another video game.

I often see:

1. It kills the community!!!
Such a silly and false statement. We have many many strong guilds on my server. From 10 man raid guilds to massive leveling guilds. My 10 man raid guild met and formed AFTER the LFD hit WoW and we are still friends today. Seems like a good community to me.

2. People ninja more!!!
Actually it is not possible to ninja loot in WoWs current LFD system. You roll on the items that fit your spec. I saw a lot more ninja looting before the LFD when there was no built in rules to prevent it.

3. People behave poorly!!!
Please name a single type of behavior that did not exist before the LFD.

4. DPS will still have a long wait time!!!
Long compared to never? I will be happy to wait.

5. I WIN BUTTON!!
what?

I am convinced that people opposing the LFD either have no idea what they are talking about or just like to argue against anything for the sake of arguing.

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Esproc
03.29.2012 , 11:43 PM | #483
Quote: Originally Posted by ferroz View Post
I don't want to be offensive, but I can't puzzle out what you're trying to say. I'm not sure whether you're just having problems with the language, or if this is an intentional argument by gibberish fallacy.
You always mean to be offensive, and your lack of understanding is just lack of wanting to see another opinion other than your own.

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Anyway.
Deflection, right.


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You claimed that cross server is bad because it means that you can't talk or hang out with friends that you meet in cross server groups.
I said you can add them to REALID, you didn't want to see that apparently. And the chance of actually meeting and bonding with someone from a LFD/LFR is minimal.

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This is a flatly false statement: there is nothing about cross server grouping that prevents someone from talking to people they meet cross server

I never said you couldn't talk to other servers, see above, I pointed out REALID friends. Again you take things out of context and twist for either your amusement, ego, lack of reasoning, or stunted maturity.

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nor is there anything that prevents hanging out with people cross server
Right, hanging in Stormwind or Orgrimar together, I can see that, try again. Just chat, no local runs with out X-Server LFG/LFR to link you up for runs. Form a guild, oh, can't sorry.

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In fact, the primary game that people are using as an example when they're asking for cross server lfg allows both of these things, so the feature that's being asked for clearly includes both of these things.
Still does not do anything other than to facilitate chat options and using the X-server feature. And that Primary game is not the game of these forums. And as you say the "Primary" game points to your lack of evidence used claiming "all other/ Most all other" games use this feature so that it must be incorporated into this one.


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For whatever reason, you've repeatedly been evasive about this
Evasive about what? I have consistently stated my points. It is you who refuses and attacks every single person who does not bow down to your will and accept your opinion as the only way things should be.

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I'm guessing it's because I showed that your only reason was totally incorrect and you haven't been able to come up with another one yet.
You are again assuming that you are the only one who can be correct on any point whatsoever. I'm sorry, but that is not the case. Others have also pointed out reasons that we should not have to repeat over and over again for you to take out of context, twist around, and attack us for stating.


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Lightsabers. Wookies. A yoda clone voiced by winnie the pooh. Etc.
Go post on that other games thread for them, maybe they will see your infinite wisdom.

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Why are you resorting to red herrings and ad hominem like this?
Perhaps it is because you shut tight your blinders and can not see that you are trying to change a game into a copy of what you want. Already mentioned you are not always right and that there are other posters that think the same way I do. And then you throw up "Red Herring" and expect to throw people into thinking that it is a smoke screen and not an apology for my argument.

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Is it because you can't actually think of a valid argument against cross server lfg? I'm guessing that's it exactly.
It is because of you ferroz, all because of you, because nothing else matters in all things except you and what you want . What you want to have, what you want to see, and what you think you deserve.

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False dilemma fallacy.
So you had an incorrect embarrassing situation that was a misleading notion.

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  1. I haven't left wow
  1. So completely content and want this to become the same as what you want.

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  2. I may still play wow or may have left wow; in either case, I was happy with with the feature set, even if I was bored with the lack of content.
So again, you want this yo be WoW, but with different content.

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  • I may still play wow or may have left wow; in either case I was happy with specific features even if I was unhappy with specific other features.

  • Specific, not all, but let's clone it just the same.

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  • etc
  • No ideas left to say.

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    So you have argument by gibberish fallacy; ad hominem fallacy; false dillema fallacy. Your post gets the fallacy hat trick. Congrats!
    The personal attacks again to people who do not bow down to your mighty will and regal in your splendor.

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    As to why I want to see the devs add good features to SWTOR... well, it's because I want to see them add good features to swtor... seems pretty obvious to me.
    And what you call good features are not considered good features by everyone here.

    Did you notice the actual topic of the thread? So you jumped in to get your views across as well as the OP and others that feel the same way.

    Some of us still stand for NO X-SERVER LFG.
    In this Age of Information, Ignorance is a Choice!

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    Rikeryo
    03.29.2012 , 11:43 PM | #484
    don't listen to those crybabies bioware. just give us that damn LFD tool.
    5% club member

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    Reevax
    03.29.2012 , 11:47 PM | #485
    Quote: Originally Posted by Esproc View Post
    Some of us still stand for NO X-SERVER LFG.
    Yet have never given a valid reason not to have one.

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    Amp_
    03.29.2012 , 11:50 PM | #486
    First step should be same server. As it stands now, the game really hurts from having nothing at all.

    If things don't pan out, then I think it should be opened up to cross-server (as much as I'd rather not have it, I understand it can be a necessary evil).

    I hate to admit it, but game-play > community these days. That's just the way a game like SWTOR functions. It's not built around community.

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    Esproc
    03.29.2012 , 11:51 PM | #487
    Quote: Originally Posted by Reevax View Post
    Yet have never given a valid reason not to have one.

    Your opinion, as some of us have given what we feel are valid reasons.
    And in my opinion, as well as others that have posted, You have not given a Valid Reason For One. Other than, but they have it QQ and I want one too.
    In this Age of Information, Ignorance is a Choice!

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    Reevax
    03.29.2012 , 11:54 PM | #488
    Quote: Originally Posted by Esproc View Post
    Your opinion, as some of us have given what we feel are valid reasons.
    And in my opinion, as well as others that have posted, You have not given a Valid Reason For One. Other than, but they have it QQ and I want one too.
    Right, so you are just arguing to argue. I understand.

    Letting people play on their own schedules is only good for the long term of the game. It is really just that simple.

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    Touchbass
    03.30.2012 , 12:08 AM | #489
    Quote: Originally Posted by Reevax View Post
    Right, so you are just arguing to argue. I understand.

    Letting people play on their own schedules is only good for the long term of the game. It is really just that simple.
    Yeah, Biodrones typically think in this regard towards the issue

    1) Yes I understand your server is terrible for groups, so simply re-roll to one of the many servers (all 10 of them) with a bustling population

    2) Don't want to redo 3 months of effort then **** of game you don't belong here
    Our lack of a proper LFD tool will black out the sun!
    Then we shall cancel our subs in the shade!

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    Esproc
    03.30.2012 , 12:10 AM | #490
    Quote: Originally Posted by Reevax View Post
    Right, so you are just arguing to argue. I understand.

    Letting people play on their own schedules is only good for the long term of the game. It is really just that simple.
    And in your words, as you say of mine, "you are just arguing to argue. I understand".

    I feel that the LFD/LFR has some serious drawbacks in the way it just happens to bring out the best in people. I have experienced first hand many of the reasons that have caused my decision on this subject to be against the tool.
    In this Age of Information, Ignorance is a Choice!