Love how people want to nerf Shadows now

It's easy to stop an Assassin with the ball and all his CD's up. Force Leap roots work through everything. And I mean everything. Resolve, Force Shroud, whatever. Use it right after they sprint, preferably while on a fire trap. If you're a Guardian (who are the best ball carriers, by the way) you can Force Push them into the pit after Force Shroud wears off, which should be less than 2 seconds after your root does if you happened to catch them right as they activated it.

But you used 4 GCDs to setup all the damage that occurs in those 2. That's like saying if I do Tracer Missile followed by a HSM, they'll impact at roughly the same time so that's 6K in one GCD if both crit. It's really 2 GCDs even though the impact happened during a single GCD, not to mention you need 2 more GCDs to just setup the Tracer stacks in the first place.

When you look at the total setup time, 6K in 2 GCD is very high, especially in the case of Force Lightning you don't need any fancy setup or luck. It's not as impressive as some of the absolutely best burst DPS scenario, but you can also use it way more often than these once in a blue moon streaks. Realistically you're looking at Darkness for 6-8K with 4 GCD setup time (Wither + Shock + FL) while using no special cooldowns, and this is a very high amount of reusable DPS. Again if you can regularly do say 12K DPS in even 4 GCD setup you'd be on pace for 90 kills in a match, and I've had games where we are basically killing the guys the moment they jump off the Voidstar shuttle and still came nowhere close to getting 90 kills.

Also, burst DPS only works on classes with no defenses against it. Marauders and Assassins, for example, would have no problem avoiding most burst DPS abilities with their own cooldowns. Now classes like Sages have no CD to counter burst DPS, but that's why I said it's not fair if you're only feasting on low armor targets with no way to avoid your burst DPS, given there are plenty of high armor targets that can negate burst DPS out there.

Darkness Sin (tank spec) is one of the most powerful, if not THE most powerful 1v1 class in the game. It's fighting for the king of the hill spot w/ Marauder.

People like to call nerfs to classes that can beat them 1v1, even though this game's PvP is about group play and objectives, not 1v1.

It probably doesn't help that a Deception Sin also brings incredible burst damage, and after getting killed by one of these guys, a player might try to fight another Sin who is Darkness and just won't die. It's easy to misconstrue them as the same spec if you don't know any better.

This happens w/ a lot of classes, though.

Whatever gave you that notion? 1v1 doesnt matter cause its a "group" game???? So a class like marauder or assassin, that can beat any other class 1v1 isnt overpowered, but a class for instance like commando/merc that will basically lose in 1v1 against every other class in the game due to the blatant lack of interrupt, lack of defensive CDs and how easy it is to shut down. That class needs a nerf because it apparantly is good in a "group" context?

So what happens if you pitch 2 marauders vs 2 commandos? Will the commandos win? I dont think so. What if you pitch 3 marauders vs 3 commandos? Will the commandos win? Id like to see how.

1v1 matters. Its the most apparant indication on how good a class is. If you only look at damagenumbers in WZ maybe classes like sage and commando can rank high due to AoE. Keep in mind that shadow and marauder damage is mostly single target damage. And STILL they happen on occasion to score top on the dmg meters. And thats pretty ridiculous.

One of the key reasons why people aren't good at playing Darkness is thinking you must have 3 stacks of HD. It gets you an extra 500 tooltip damage and that's it. The heal is nice but you're already the toughest DPS class to kill even without it. The third stack of HD will cost you around 3-4 GCDs to get depending on your Force situation and luck. When you can setup a 2 stack HD every 5 GCDs you should not give up 4 GCDs just to tack on another 500 tooltip damage + a heal unless you're about to die without the heal.

Although stranger things have happened, if an Assassin can beat say a Sage, Operative, and Commando 1on1, it's very unlikely 3 Assassins would lose to any 3 combination of those 3 guys. Besides, Tankasins have great synergy with any other class. Guard is an obvious choice, but Wither also helps all your guys tremendously. It allows your ranged to escape from their melee, and prevents their ranged from escaping your melee. Being a great 1on1 specialist does not hinder their role in a group. An Assassin guarding a Marauder, for example, would make a great 2 man team.

I've never seen someone survive until a second Assassinate without using a CD that'd get you out of any kind of mess (Undying Rage, Energy Shield) or a big heal.

Also Assassinate cannot be stopped by Force Shroud, the ability often seen in the mirror match. Use they can Saber Ward but you still have a 34% chance to connect even with no accuracy mod, versus 0% with any Force-based ability.

Unless you're talking about the mirror match, most classes only have a 5% chance to avoid it without a CD even with no accuracy mods.