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Marking Healers


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Dayshadow
03.29.2012 , 04:16 PM | #21
Quote: Originally Posted by Khoraji View Post
marking is important. It is too hard to tell everyone "Attack the healer" because no one will do it unless there is a giant star on their head. And if no one focus-fires, GL trying to kill anyone.

Playing a healer, it comes with the territory that you WILL be targeted...marked or not. Marking just makes it easier for pugs.When rated WZ's get here and the entire team is on voice comms, marking won't be necessary and you still be focused as soon as they see you healing.
If a ops group cannot figure out who is healing and deal with the issue they deserve to get rolled. Being able to mark players is like using training wheels. If a person's heals exceed your DPS you better get that healer. If this is too complicated for bad players so be it.

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Nytak
03.29.2012 , 04:18 PM | #22
If you don't want to get "marked" as a healer, don't heal ppl in a warzone.

I don't need a raid marker, you heal, we target. Removing them won't keep you alive any longer.
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Hardsteel
03.29.2012 , 04:20 PM | #23
I like the ability to mark in warzones..lol.. I tend to mark our healers and sometimes just randomly mark a guy on oposing side for kicks..lol.. sometimes i mark our whole team just to be a clown,,, and i sometimes just mark myself... I find it a rather enjoyable experience and if you cant agree then cry lol....

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Rynis
03.29.2012 , 04:32 PM | #24
IMO the second you queue as a healer you have a target over your head.


If the person I'm fighting is going up in health constantly I know there is a healer, and when I see the cast bar, I've found my target for the rest of the game.
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Jasno
03.29.2012 , 05:55 PM | #25
I'm a healer, and I think there is no way you should remove this feature.

It sucks getting smacked as soon as you walk onto the field. I know but both sides need to have tools available for coordination. No one worth a salt is going to let you sit there and free cast your heals.

Some tips,

1. Stick and move, don't stay in one spot for more than one cast

2. Die, yes die, if you can get enough heals off so 3 of your team mates can live and accomplish the mission than you have done your job.

3. Chain healing, healer for the healer (used in conjunction with tip 4)

4. Late bloomer, most of the time group leaders are looking to mark healers and then get on with the battle. This being said, look like a dps'r for a while before starting to heal. I've gotten away with this plenty of times

5. Use your hots and instant casts as much as possible while running for your life

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Tiriensoul
03.29.2012 , 05:58 PM | #26
Quote: Originally Posted by DarkDruidSS View Post
Let's say they did get rid of it. I would hope you don't try rated because you can bet even if you can't mark a healer then people will be calling your name and you will still be focus fired. So the difference is a graphic on the screen or someone calling your name. You are ok with someone calling your name, but a graphic is crossing the line?


Without marking....
Player 1:
Hey Bob, Nakazia is by me.

Player 2:
Oh really, everyone Nakazia is by Player 1. Move to kill.

Nakazia:
/dead

With Marking...
Player 1:
Nakazia is a healer please mark them.

Player 2:
Nakazia has been marked.

Nakazia:
/dead

Difference is a graphic. That is all.

Since everybody looks the same, it's harder to find the target without mark.
IF someone is marked it's fast and easy.

I usually need to use tab or mouse to find my target, with a mark on i don't have to find it, i know where he/she is instantly.

Big difference, only a nab would say otherwise.
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Arrys
03.29.2012 , 06:00 PM | #27
Quote: Originally Posted by TheNegotiator View Post
I'd actually like to see all player healing removed from pvp and move it all to med packs and stims usable by everyone. Healing in PVP is too overpowered and honestly it's not fun to battle with somebody for 30 seconds only to watch their health go back up when you're about to win.
And all DPS should come from player crafted grenades and use abilities on PvP only gear.....

And all Defensive abilities should only come from PvP armor....

Hear what you are saying yet?

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Arrys
03.29.2012 , 06:15 PM | #28
Quote: Originally Posted by Pistols View Post
How do you know that the Opfor hasn't put in /ops chat "Kill MINKY the healer"?

Believe it or not, some pugs have 2-3 peeps who que together, and are not as brain dead as other pugs. Just because you get focused due to someone seeing a green cast bar, or has seen you multiple times =/= marking. On the flip side, many times I have seen healers marked, and not a single person focuses them. Welcome to healing 101.
There is a difference from a large certical flag that makes you easy to track and saying go get X.

Getting gang tackled by people that put the effort into spotting the healer and assist is fine and acceptable.

Having the flag above your head is different. There is no dropping your CC and losing yourself in the clump to relocate to another out of the obvious view location. And when players who can't leap leave your CC and Bee line for you 100% of the time after taking evasive maneuvers you know you've been marked. Leapers they are already a natural counter to evasive action and have the right skils to go interupt/disrupt city on healers as well.

It simply removes what was a fun part of pvp healing knowing how to position and reposition well and makes it a valueless player skill.

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Zhaker
03.29.2012 , 06:19 PM | #29
The only thing I agree upon is that when marked and the target dies the mark needs to be removed, allowing to be constantly marked even during death makes it quite annoying.

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Tipkaee
03.29.2012 , 06:21 PM | #30
The real issue is that whole teams are allowed to be marked. Knowing at all times where the whole enemy team is without even having sight is insanely broken in hutball. As for marking healers i have no problem.


Also my favorite is when someone marks me with "republic/imperial targeting device" because the marked person can just remove that debuff and the mark disappears.