Love how people want to nerf Shadows now

I have never seen one thread about how they are overpowered until 1.2 patch notes came out and pretty much changed every class except ours. unbelievable.

I agree. Especially if you play infiltration/deception spec. If anything, those guys need a buff. Tank spec is good.. but overpowered?... I don't think so!

Don't worry once 1.2 hits and rated warzones come out, you'll see more of them.

Yeah that just doesn't make sense they are the most underpowered class in the game. PVE tanks are ok... but pvp tanks and dps are really weak. I haven't played one yet but they are very easy to handle in pvp.

It's called being sleeper OP.

Another class is in the spotlight of being OP, when that class gets nerfed, the power of the sleeper OP class becomes more apparent.

well people have been saying we are OP for a while before the 1.2 patch notes came out but after yeah it has gotten bad. Ill take whatever they throw at me. I have played this spec since early access and will not be stopping any time soon.

I think the reason people think they are over powered is because playing a shadow takes a lot more skill then a lot of other classes. So most people who stink will not play that class. Hence they are better players. I have lvl 50 shadow infiltration, lvl 49 merc, lvl 20 Guardian and lvl 18 sage. I would say the shadow and the Guardian are the hardest to play. If I need some mindless fun I will play my BH. I am always #1 for damage with BH without breaking a sweat. I have to really concentrate to break be in the top 3 for my shadow. (and that is after downing 3 redbulls)

The bulk of the problem is the glaring difference between damage and tank spec. Infiltration Shadows melt under anything remotely resembling DPS. They do good damage, but Kinetic Shadows do plenty of damage as well. Burst isn't as high, but sustained is still more than exceptional. Kinetic Shadows live longer and have way more PvP utility. Pull + Guard = win. The Infiltration Shadow doesn't really get any added PvP utility at all, save for maybe Low Slash, which isn't exactly game changing.

Darkness Sin (tank spec) is one of the most powerful, if not THE most powerful 1v1 class in the game. It's fighting for the king of the hill spot w/ Marauder.

People like to call nerfs to classes that can beat them 1v1, even though this game's PvP is about group play and objectives, not 1v1.

It probably doesn't help that a Deception Sin also brings incredible burst damage, and after getting killed by one of these guys, a player might try to fight another Sin who is Darkness and just won't die. It's easy to misconstrue them as the same spec if you don't know any better.

This happens w/ a lot of classes, though.

Tank spec seems -almost- OP in 1v1, especially since other tanks have no chance of defeating him, but a good DPS can kill them just fine as long as they don't have a healer.

DPS spec Shadows running their DPS techniques are squishy as hell and pretty much can't 1v1 any other DPS that's also attacking them back. I have far more trouble with Conceal Operatives than I do any kind of DPS Shadows/Sins. I would never call Sins and Shadows OP, because more often than not, they're nothing but free kills. As easy to kill as Sages, only without the bubbles and the ability to kite. I've killed DPS Sages and Shadows in 3 hits before. If it's Tank spec that's the outlier, perhaps it will be nerfed just like Powertech was, but I don't think it's nerf worthy.

(My class is Sith Juggernaut, geared in Champ + Battlemaster).