Can Huttball finally be fixed?

In the example you give, it's 1 vs 2. Two people working together should be able to overcome the utility of 1 person. You say that you cannot defend against a Juggernaut's "charge" ability.

Can you describe a scenario where it's just you and a Juggernaut and you can't do anything to defend against the charge? By including a 2nd player (the Sorcerer), this argument is no longer about defending against a single class ability.

This further proves the point that Huttball is a team sport and is dominated by teamwork... that is, unless you can give a better defense of how charge is an insurmountable class ability in a team situation.

So... you're playing alone? There should be 7 other people there to help you in this situation. If it's just you against this Sorc and Jugg combo... you're probably outta luck. OR you can try to get to the Sorc while out of LoS on the Jugg and kill it, eliminating both problems. If you are up against a more organized team, like a premade, and you're with a random PuG of awful players where you are the only one in this situation, well you're in trouble. But that's true of any situation.

Again, Huttball is a TEAM game -- you need your team to actually win.

LOL! Unless you mean "football" as in soccer?! Huttball is ridiculously slanted towards certain classes and is a worthless joke of a warzone.

Huttball is the soccer of PvP. A place where pretend athletes can act like they're good.

I'm still enjoying Huttball immensely on my Commando and my Gunslinger. Neither one has a pull, a charge or a speed boost. In fact, many players consider them to be worthless in the Pit. But to me they still feel very effective.

The Commando likes to team up with a tank and a damage-dealer to form a slow-moving, ball-carrying turtle. The tank inches towards the end zone, while I run ahead, heal until he catches up and then run ahead again. The DPS stays close (usually, but not always, ahead of teh tank. That gives us passing options) and attacks anyone who gets close to the tank. It is a very effective team.

My Gunslinger likes to play the DPS role in those trios, but he also likes to hunt ball carriers, pullers and healers. Between the crowd control (especially the "lowly" Leg Shot), the DPS and the protection he gets from cover, he makes a great defensive player for my team.

Both of my characters would benefit if movement tricks were taken away from the ball carrier. But I would be very disappointed if that happens. I absolutely love the unpredictability of Huttball as it is now.

You forgot three options:

4. Go into the pit and use a grapple on the sorc/sage to safely remove them from position

5. Kill the Juggernaut (while not on the goal line/any other advantageous position for said Jugg to charge).

6. Requires coordination. Have someone stun the Jugg while another KB's the sage off the ledge. The person using the KB should then retreat/jump down so as not to be charged themselves. This also requires no CC breaker to be up on the Jugg. I concede this is by far the weakest option.


Just saying that the above tactic is by no means UNDEFENDABLE, but it is tricky to defend against. Mostly any grapplers on your team need to keep the CD up for intelligent uses (it has a 45 second CD). I almost always save it for stopping a ball carrier/score set up. At most I might pull a healer into fire to leave the BC vulnerable to our teams' dps.

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You're right, many bad players think commando's and gunsligers are useless when they infact provide the highest single target range dps in the game. Adding items like leaps or pulls will be the quickest way to ensure a drastic decrease in their damage.

It's the 'Everyone wants to be the striker' syndrome.

I'm not sure that the "YOU CAN NOT DEFEND" part is true, even if it is large and easy to read.

If I'm on a catwalk with a Sorcerer and there's a Juggernaut on a level below, I can usually knock the Sorcerer off the catwalk without ever putting myself in the Juggernaut's line of sight. The catwalk provides excellent cover.

This is also a situation where Gunslingers really shine, thanks to their immobilizing attacks, knockback and protection from charges. It won't work every time, but they are very capable of slowing the ball down until help arrives.

I agree that the team leaping and team pulls don't have great counters. When I first started figuring out strategies in Huttball it seemed that passing the ball was the best option.

I don't believe that's true anymore. A team can gain ground much faster by using those tools. Everytime a player is pulled or leaps it seperates the defense. Which can be said the same for passing. However the other method is faster and more efficient with the defense less likely to keep up.

I wasn't aware that HB needed fixing.

I confidently state that Huttball is far and away the single best PvP match I have played in fourteen years of MMORPG PvP.

Tactics will change as classes are "tweaked", but the game itself is pure win.