Guild Progression Ranking

Can only the person who registered the guild submit the information? I go to register our guild and it is already on there.

As far as your point of bosses increasing in points earned per kill as you progress into the raid seems legitimate, the problem lies in the fact that the bosses don't become progressively harder as you move through the encounter. SWTOR just isn't designed in this fashion, as is evident with ALL of their PvE content from Flashpoints to Operations. Often times the entry, mid or "bonus" encounter boss ends up being significantly more difficult than the end boss who ends up being a loot pinata.

With that in mind, who decides how hard a particular boss is? I for one find Karagga to be incredibly easy, even with the pre-charge gravity wells. I also find SOA to be a stupidly easy fight, but one that just had an insane amount of bugs which prevented progression for a lot of guilds for a decent chunk of time. To be fair, the only fight I find mildly challenging is Jarg and Sorno and it is probably also the only fight I actually have fun on within this current tier. So based on that, I believe Jarg and Sorno should be worth more points than every other boss. Fair? Probably not and that's the problem.

No site to my knowledge (including wowprogress that you mentioned) includes or tracks "pre-nerf" kills or scores them differently. If you can kill it pre-nerf then you get your entry in sooner and get more points for the kill, effectively already making it worth more. It simply becomes far too much of a hassle tracking encounter changes and trying to decide how much harder they are and how to properly score that particular change.

Guilds who are submitting kills that were done under a different guild tag should not be doing so, the "guild credit" should not transfer and that is what the dispute system is for and it's already being used. As far as kills that were done on an easier mode, well that should be logged into that mode.

Currently yes, in the near future additional functionality will be added to allow you to select "officers" which will have submission/editing capabilities, it's just still in development.

Kreven! You have no life!

Anyhow, Ghost Legion is up and running in the new tracking site.

We are progressing even though you ditched us for greener pastures!

We aren't the police, and we aren't trying to be. I don't know how every single kill was accomplished, and I won't pretend to know. I also won't make assumptions and act on potentially incorrect information. If you know of guilds who exploited content then dispute it and speak up.

I've never believed and I continue to believe that if you are going to accurately track Normal(Story) / Hard / Nightmare mode progression you can't intermix the three just because one boss was accidentally made more difficult on another difficulty setting. Was it an achievement to down that particular boss when few or no one else could, absolutely and I'm all for you being recognized for that. The method of recognition however, shouldn't be counting HM kills into Nightmare progression. Perhaps some viable means of identifying those guilds that could, but counting points from different difficulties isn't the answer in my opinion. I'm not programming the ranking system, but that's where I stand.

I don't know who registered our guild (Jen'jidai on Jung Ma). No one in our guild seems to know. I know it wasn't me ( the PvE Officer) and anyone above me (my two GMs).

LOL... Tablet's work wonders along with subscriptions!

Thanks for posting! I appreciate your time and support for the site! I'll gear my Juggernaut up and tag along soon, promise!

In concept that works, though the problem comes in when all the pre-nerf kills were in "hard mode", whereas nightmare mode is now the standard for tracking progression, meaning they dont even get counted in that respect.

Again, this goes back to my earlier point about how being 100% objective is not necessarily the best way to go about it.

My suggestion is still to have pre-nerf kill dates for Soa/Bonethrasher count as nightmare kill dates on the site, as they were effectively (and unanimously) harder than their corresponding nightmare counterparts. That way, pre-nerf kills wont count for more as you said, but they still get counted in a system that emphasizes "nightmare" mode kills, where nightmare mode is just a label in of itself.

As I said before, soa/bonethrasher prenerf in hard mode were effectively nightmare-mode encounters in every way except label. They shouldnt be discounted just to strictly adhere to nomenclature.

Let me look into it and one of us will PM you. Thanks for bringing it to our attention.

I'm honestly not trying to be argumentative, I have all the respect in the world for those that completed these encounters that were in fact much harder (I didn't). It's simply dangerous ground combining difficulties, not impossible and not likely difficult but .. dangerous.

Again, I'm not designing/programming/managing the ranking system I'm just voicing an opinion. Being the first tier, which was arguably nothing to write home about, I'm personally fine with going either way. I absolutely don't think any rankings that come from submissions for this tier will be indicative of the next tier, and that's comforting in a way. When the next tier goes live (Nightmare specifically) and people are submitting screen shots as soon as the kill is completed it will become much harder for some of these issues to arise.

Again though, what if some of the HM Explosive Conflict fights in up being harder than their NM counterparts, do we continue picking and choosing fights essentially creating a custom progression tier? It's a worthwhile debate, but given the content I don't see the point in having the developer spend the time putting in the effort when the next tier is around the corner (literally for me I can see BW from my place!).

Just me though!