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SWTOR. Too much theme park?


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Reico
03.28.2012 , 02:35 AM | #101
Quote: Originally Posted by Goretzu View Post
Nope.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Realm_versus_Realm

Either you are confused or trolling.

Ilum is faction based open world pvp, not RvR.
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Goretzu
03.28.2012 , 02:37 AM | #102
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I'm not picking a fight. Your comments are confusing me. We never had RvR at all. Ilum is not RvR.
I don't know what to say, have you never been to the supposed RvR basin?


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Actually, in SWTOR, it would be Faction vs. Faction.

We don't have Realms.... WoW is that way... --->>
Mythic had the trademark on RvR and as Mythic became Bioware-Mythic and then eventually just Bioware EA (once the digestion process was finished) I think RvR is fine.

WoW never had RvR, because it never had the trademark, only DAoC and WAR did.

However just because you don't call something RvR doesn't mean it's not, just that it's not been called that offically becasue the term is trademarked.

Hope that helps.
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Goretzu
03.28.2012 , 02:39 AM | #103
Quote: Originally Posted by Reico View Post
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Realm_versus_Realm

Either you are confused or trolling.

Ilum is faction based open world pvp, not RvR.
Faction open world PvP is RvR

There are clearly confused trolls here, but it's not me.
Real Star Wars space combat please, not Star Wars Fox! Maybe some PvP and flight too?
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Griad
03.28.2012 , 02:43 AM | #104
I would like some more free roaming/exploration, night day cycle and a more free space combat. Other than that i like the game dont mind that its a theme park in general
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Space_Gimp
03.28.2012 , 02:44 AM | #105
Quote: Originally Posted by Goretzu View Post
I don't know what to say, have you never been to the supposed RvR basin?
I have been to ilum twice and I have never been on Warhammer Online before. According to wiki two opposite sides fight for resources. So in a way that is like EVE Online. In swtor we are not fighting for territory or territorial assets. Although that would be a majorly awesome on pvp servers.
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Reico
03.28.2012 , 02:44 AM | #106
Quote: Originally Posted by Goretzu View Post
There are clearly confused trolls here, but it's not me.
So when the creators of the game call it "open world pvp" they are wrong and you are right.

Gotcha.
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Goretzu
03.28.2012 , 02:48 AM | #107
Quote: Originally Posted by Space_Gimp View Post
I have been to ilum twice and I have never been on Warhammer Online before. According to wiki two opposite sides fight for resources. So in a way that is like EVE Online. In swtor we are not fighting for territory or territorial assets. Although that would be a majorly awesome on pvp servers.
Fair enough, if you've never been there you wouldn't know about it.


Quote: Originally Posted by Reico View Post
So when the creators of the game call it "open world pvp" they are wrong and you are right.

Gotcha.
RvR is RvR, it doesn't matter what you call it (well it does because only Mythic and whomever now has the trademark rights within EA now can offically called something RvR without being sued).
Real Star Wars space combat please, not Star Wars Fox! Maybe some PvP and flight too?
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Sebah
03.28.2012 , 03:13 AM | #108
Quote: Originally Posted by Rygel View Post
I agree.. we need something in between what we have now and the freedom of SWG for a truly epic game.

And people saying we should not compare this to SWG are wrong. This is the 2nd Star Wars MMO it makes more sense to bring ideas from it than WoW. I also disagree that an open ended game is impossible SWG pretty much was maybe even too open ended.
Keep your SWG. It was a crappy game. There were Korean games that I enjoyed more than that game and I hate Korean games. That game for me had absolutely no Star wars feeling.
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Varghjerta
03.28.2012 , 03:27 AM | #109
hard to say what you mean by themepark is it that you have the must do progression and limited other freedom linear path personally i do like that when playing.

But then what i dont like with that is aswell that everything just gets handed to you these days basicly to the point that by just logging in gives you x amount of badges that after 1-3 months will have gotten you the adequate gear to be able to see almost every content this game have to offer.

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Devlonir
03.28.2012 , 03:41 AM | #110
Quote: Originally Posted by Goretzu View Post
Faction open world PvP is RvR

There are clearly confused trolls here, but it's not me.
Actually.. it is you. Open World PvP is not equal to RvR. RvR has been defined as:

"Realm versus Realm (RvR) is a type of Player versus Player gameplay in Massively multiplayer online role-playing games (MMORPG) where the player base is divided over multiple preset realms that fight each other over game assets. This differs from normal Player versus Player combat in that Realm versus Realm usually depicts a game that is centralized around this combat, as opposed to a game where sporadic Player versus Player combat occurs. In this context, "realm" generally means a geographic territory or political affiliation."

Although Ilum was Open World PVP, it was never meant to be a fight over game assets, just an area to grind PVP points to get PVP gear. Therefore, Ilum was not RvR.
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