MMO vets what do you think Of Sw TOR

Ive played Anarchy Online for 8 years or more...Lineage II for 2 years and some other.
The game shouldve been only PVE. The 90% of players playing this game are hardcore movie fans which dont really PVP.
It has nice PVE content...but the PVP is repetitive and besides that they make it easier so those fanboys dont get roflstomped in a Wz (it's too hard for them to grind PVP 2-3 days to get full Centurion, they need their armor/weaps handed out of free, BM if possible).
So in the course of time PVP will get to be a serious joke while PVE content will get some time to time add-ons.
Overall this game is not for MMO vets ... its for "forever alone" star war movie fans.

D3 is hack and slash not really pvp. It is more pvp light. GW2? First one sucked. Why is this going to be different. Add to that? Lagswitches (software emulators) and hacks are going to be freaking out of control.

See any fps game on the pc for a preview of what guildwars will look like. People risk nothing but buying a new copy of the game = rampant cheating.

The "gw2 is gonna be awesome" people are the same people who said "swtor is gonna be awesome". Face it. It is sabers or pandas. Hopefully 1.2 is good.

1: I can't agree more with, due to the quest system though it's hard to group with people if they are above/below your level in quests.

2:- I hate gear progression, or atleast one which provides a considerable boost over other characters. The current gear progression puts me off. I PvP/RvR for fun, incentives should come from other areas, not having the best gear so you gain Doom like god-mode and just roflstomp everyone.

3:- Hopefully this is being addressed and hopefully this is where some RvR/PvP incentives will come from aswell as ways to progress characters hopefully.

4:- Did you ever try DAOC?

Forgot to add: being gaming since I was 4, from the ZX Spectrum, C64, all the Amiga's, segas/nes' etc right upto 360/PS3, mainly play COD/BF3 now. Played DAOC for the last 10 years, with Planetside, Matrix Online Beta, WAR, COH and various other's for a shortwhile.

The vast majority of "MMO Vet's" do not have a sub to this game.

Dragonrealms and a few other muds
Played UO pre-trammel
Asheron's Call: Darktide server (the only one that mattered)
WoW for far far too long
AoC for a bit
WaR for a bit
DarkFail during the only period it was really decent (beta and EU launch until the macro/bot wars began)
Aion for like a month (overseas grindaholic crap imo. grind grind grind, blegh)


I'm actually enjoying Swtor very much. The storylines are very refreshing, bioware has always ruled at RPG's in that manner (VO's, etc). Also I find PvP for the most part to be surprisingly balanced for how young the game is. 90% of the issues I see in what the game "lacks" I can attribute to the playerbase, such as lack of owpvp. If more people would just go out and DO IT then there'd be more of it. Instead since there's no bright shiny incentive trophy for it everyone gets all meh about it.

The great games of yore didn't have any great shiny carrot on a stick to chase in order to entice it, they just enabled pvp and the community itself took care of the rest. Sadly nowadays it's just about carrot grinding for most people.

Oh the contrary, Most true Vets / Hardcore Players do not care for the odd bug and lack of content to an extent, They accept the fact that not every game is perfect and there will always be waiting for new content.

True gamers have patience and understanding, not short tempered kids who cry for new content and nerfs constantly when things dont go their way.

started up with EQ in 2000 and quickly turned to DAoC in 2001 played that and tried out WoW,Aion,WAR,GW and AoC along the way, i feel SWTOR has the potential to become a better game than it currently is, the lack of proper pvp is killing the buzz the lack of proper pve is killing it aswell, overall it lacks world pvp and more players in warzones plus the armor designs on the armor is seriously a buzzkill for most, the might wanna get some of their ME designers on that tbh

Oh tea, indeed..biggest downfall is the armor designing in this game ...they just cant do it right.

UO -years
Lineage 2- 2 years
WoW - 4 years
try rift aion lotro..

1st part :
Leveling/story experience 100% best game ever, the leveling part is awesome and the best, I leveled my chars in groupe and solo, both works well and havent a single problem with it..

2nd part
end game :
a) PvP not bad at all but just 3 WZ and failum isnt enought to keep you running them more then few games per day when your gear progresion ends (full BM) , that reminds me . geting full BM is easy, start leveling my BH around 2-3.2.12 two months later valor rank 68 full BM gear (thats just too fast)
b) PvE ,i cleared just both 8 man (focus more on pvp so did normal just for the feel that I cleared the content) , fight isnt hard, some interesting mechanics but if you follow "DONT STAND IN THE FIRE" you will clear all without problem...

conclusion :

SWTOR isnt bad game it just bring what thei promise "wow in space + voice acting quest"
the QQers who says they need competitive PvP they just need realise that MMO cant be competitive, it isnt CS,TF2 or other games.. if you wanna competitive PvP go play League of Legends (Dota/Dota2) Starcraft 2 or something other where you and your oponent start with 0 and have same chance..
at MMO there will be always " I spend more time (read it : im nolifer etc) i have advantage "

So if you ask me .
Will you play after 1.2 : yes
Will you play so often when you got your full "warhero gear" : no , just 3-4 WZ per day, whitout carrot on the stick mmo cant hold you log in several hours a day..
Will you try GW2/D3/"Titan ???" : sure like other mmo who coming up


P.S : sorry for bad grammar english isnt my native languge..

swtor is very buggy and messy

the pve is pretty good but the pvp is just utter garbage the gear system is a mess the class balance is a joke.


bioware have alot of work to do to fix swtor