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Alderaan Warzone: If you're Losing DON"T CAP!

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Alderaan Warzone: If you're Losing DON"T CAP!

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Astarica
03.27.2012 , 12:38 PM | #311
Quote: Originally Posted by Ch_Zero View Post
Although i understand your perspective, really good teams will hold 2 nodes and forget about the 3rd one.

but they also have a few pugs that occasionally wander off to 3 cap, and finish the game faster.

in situations where the premade team only need 1 node to win, What i suggest other players to do is leave their node and hit a weaker one.

that way the enemy team can cap it, and you have an epic final battle on a different node.

Because trust me, i've seen this time and time again.

IT'S VERY UNLIKELY and i say VERY in caps because it's the same as getting struck by lightning, to 3 cap with a pug against a premade AT this point in time.

Although I'm sure one out of the 1.7 million players have been struck by lightning once.

If this has happened to someone, it would not discredit my argument.

I would find it intriguing and hilarious though, and require screenshots and the name of the premade that lost; to poke fun of them.

Because that just isn't normal
Here you're more of talking about what's the strategy to optimize medal gain in a game you clearly have no chance of winning. In a game with a score like 400 to 150, the losing team probably won't have 4 medals since they've been thoroughly dominated. Let's assume the winning team defends 4/4.

At least half of the time they'll simply just defend like this until the game ends, because they already have the game in the bag and it's virtually impossible to 3 cap a superior team defending 4/4. In this case if you send all 8 guys to attack a node, they probably will just pull 3 guys from the other node and defend against that. In this situation there's really nothing interesting you can possibly do.

Now if the enemy does attack the last node, usually they'll leave at least 3 total people behind to defend their two turrets just in case lightning strikes and the attack fails and they somehow got 3 capped. This means they're attacking with 5 guys. If you're defending with all 8 guys, this is a very favorable matchup even against a superior team, and most likely your best chance to get medals, so you might as well take this fight. Even if you have a maphack and see where they have exactly 1 guy to defend on this offensive, the fact that there is only one defender means you cannot possibly get much stat toward medal earning so you should still defend your primary point.

Now if the enemy gets overconfident and sends 7 guys and leave one of the turret undefended, maybe lightning strikes and you 3 cap them and win. But people in general are cowards so they won't even take a chance against lightning striking them. Again, if you're up with a score like 400 to 150, it's virtually impossible to lose if you just defend 4/4 no matter what, and most people will take the guaranteed win over any plan that potentially has risk.

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Sziroten
03.27.2012 , 12:43 PM | #312
Quote: Originally Posted by Tyraelium View Post
For every 2-4 drawn out losses, you can play another entire warzone.
It's about pvp, not about rewards. If I have 55 minutes for pvp, if I play 3 warzones or 4, it's still gonna be only 55 minutes, not more, not less. The only difference is the reward, which I don't care about.

Quote: Originally Posted by Ch_Zero View Post
Because that just isn't normal
look at the title of this thread and ask yourself why is that. Not because it wouldn't be possible more often but because people chicken out all the time, but you probably won't get that.

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Ch_Zero
03.27.2012 , 01:09 PM | #313
Quote: Originally Posted by Sziroten View Post
It's about pvp, not about rewards. If I have 55 minutes for pvp, if I play 3 warzones or 4, it's still gonna be only 55 minutes, not more, not less. The only difference is the reward, which I don't care about.



look at the title of this thread and ask yourself why is that. Not because it wouldn't be possible more often but because people chicken out all the time, but you probably won't get that.


It's not a matter of chickening out, or i would have left the warzone soon as i saw a premade with my crappy group of pugs.


give it your best shot, give em hell

you will start losing.... i don't give up at this point i keep pushing.


they only need 1 node to win, i give up my position and start kill farming on one of their nodes.

I let them 3 cap and say GG well played, because they had the better team.

I wouldn't say that's chickening out.


Because what team would start winning like that then all of a sudden leave all nodes poorly defended?

Please show me the guild and a screenshot, i need a good laugh.

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cultofcargo
03.27.2012 , 01:14 PM | #314
Oh dear, just play the game you loser

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Ch_Zero
03.27.2012 , 01:18 PM | #315
Quote: Originally Posted by cultofcargo View Post
Oh dear, just play the game you loser
I'm at work or i would!

This is my distraction

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Sziroten
03.27.2012 , 03:01 PM | #316
Quote: Originally Posted by Ch_Zero View Post
Because what team would start winning like that then all of a sudden leave all nodes poorly defended?

Please show me the guild and a screenshot, i need a good laugh.
How many people in this thread wrote that they turned a 3 cap around to a 3 cap?

You guys chicken around the very real scenario that it's not because the other team is so good, it's because your team is so bad. How you get a bad player to become better? Practise/ tactics/ explanation.

- don't run as one into the pulk when 4-5 others are sitting on the bike (civil war)
- call in incs
- see where are more people on the second not = go for it and fast...

You know how many times healer stay untouched? You know how many times people are not marking healer/ targets? (Yes sometimes it's that bad) Good players don't have special tools or better stuff but they can be vital as lvl 10 just as lvl 50.

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olagaton
03.27.2012 , 04:28 PM | #317
just gotta laugh at people with false hopes......

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Chewdatbacker
03.27.2012 , 04:32 PM | #318
Quote: Originally Posted by Ch_Zero View Post
If you are going to lose a game against the opposite faction and they 3 cap you,

Don't try to be a hero and cap one of the bases, it just slows down the game.

You can argue for defender points, but it's alot better to farm a position while the flag has been capped by the opposite faction, since they will keep rushing to defend the flag.

This speeds up the game and makes it so you can get your 4 medals quite easily.


Thank you
If you let the other side win, you are horrible and just quit PvP because you will probably never be good at it. Luckily I'll never know that problem, considering I have won every single Warzone I've played.

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Ch_Zero
03.27.2012 , 04:36 PM | #319
Quote: Originally Posted by olagaton View Post
just gotta laugh at people with false hopes......


this sums up the thread

GAIYS THAR IS STIL HOPES! THEY PREMADE BUT WE EMPIRE TAKE ALL THRE BASIS THEY WILL CRUMBAL

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olagaton
03.27.2012 , 04:36 PM | #320
Quote: Originally Posted by Chewdatbacker View Post
If you let the other side win, you are horrible and just quit PvP because you will probably never be good at it.
Show me your research please.