Alderaan Warzone: If you're Losing DON"T CAP!

This is why i use the term warzone troll

Hi OP,

It is a serious question so thanks for taking it as such.

Actually you cannot calculate a probability in this instance as you are dealing with human actions, not a random event.

Mathematical probability really only applies to random occurences (dice rolls, coin flips etc.).

With a score of 400 - 90 I agree it is unlikely you will be able to turn the tide and win, but you cannot put a % probability to it.

That aside, whilst your argument has validity, you are unlikely to get what you wish as you are dealing with human emotion.

Everyone plays games to generate an emotional response within themselves (pleasure, satisfaction, anger, etc.). As we each derive pleasure in subtly different ways, the way in which we play games differs from person to person.

You are essentially asking others to lessen their own emotional experiences so that you can enhance yours. As such, that request is unlikely to succeed.

On a rare occasion, asking a group of people to be selfless can work, for example a "Guys, I need to be out of here in 2 mins, we look like we have lost this could you help me out and let them cap that 3rd turret so I can finish this one quickly", may work. However you are essentially asking people to do that all the time.

Logic and statistics have their places, however that place is not in this discussion as we are dealing with emotion.

Regards
Wolf

For every 2-4 drawn out losses, you can play another entire warzone. Considering most of us play hundreds of Warzones per season, this amounts to a lot of time saved. Of the drawn out losses you play, you might actually succeed at winning 1/1000 due to errors made by opposing team. Server variation comes into play here because you would have to account for average skill level and queue times as well. The cost/benefit analysis for one game is something along the lines of:
Receive same or similar valor/commendations while spending 5 extra minutes in the game. (-33% valor/comm rate)
1/1000 chance at getting ~500 extra valor and ~20 extra comms.

The numbers are rough/made up obviously, but still relevant. Conduct your own research and determine for yourself whether or not the math works for you and your playstyle. I have had 2 full BM gear sets for a while, and haven't had the time to PvP much at all in the past month.

Hi Tyraelium,

I am not arguing against you premise that not drawing out Warzones where you are unlikely to win is more time efficient for grinding valour and commendations.

I am also not arguing that once you bring in a best estimate for win vs loss from a certain point, you can calculate a rough approximation of increased gain from faster loss time.

I was merely pointing out that this is a logical theory and has nothing to do with statistics and cannot have a % probability assigned to it.

Also, a logical theory, no matter how valid, will rarely if ever change peoples minds as you are dealing with their emotions.

To take this one step further, if everyone approached this game from a pure logic point of view, there would never be any Warzones at all as both sides would weigh all of the factors available to them at the start of the match, construct an approximation of their chances of winning and then quit/fold before ever firing a shot

So to summarise, by all means put forward your viewpoints on efficiency, and point out the merits of your logical theory, but at the same time accept the fact that many people will disagree with you as their emotional satisfaction is achieved by other means, and will NEVER be swayed by an appeal to logic as it is irrelavent to their gain.

This doesn't make us noobs or stupid or ignorant of statistics and logic, it merely makes us different.

Regards
Wolf

Appreciate the explanation




but the real question is... Would you still cap against all odds? ;O

or take a logical approach? <(0.0)>

If you are yelling to quit and give up. Yes, to spite you I would cap and to hope that you eventually quit so that I can win some games. Loser attitudes attract losing. Logical yes?

but the real question is... Would you still cap against all odds? ;O

or take a logical approach? <(0.0)>