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flashpoints when will they be solo able?

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flashpoints when will they be solo able?

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Saurakk
03.27.2012 , 09:54 AM | #71
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Darth_Bond
03.27.2012 , 10:02 AM | #72
Quote: Originally Posted by Darthaes View Post
heck even cross faction flashpoints is even better than doing nothing.
but but...that will ruin community!

oh wait, we already have a pvp finder, and a cross server pvp finder coming soon.
Story is so important i sold starwars to disney and asked jj abrams to direct the new star wars film....and that is why we cant have faction change!

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NoxiousAlby
03.27.2012 , 10:20 AM | #73
Quote: Originally Posted by Nexelau View Post
I really can't see a legitimate reason for them not to allow this, other than the old "omg, MMO means groups all the time!" garbage.

My trooper, for example, has a group.... Elara and Aric, and a droid.

My Jedi goes one better, since my wife and I are levelling those two together.. healer and tank, with dps companions.

That's four people, why exactly can't we complete these missions?

Oh, because someone at Bioware and the self appointed "guardians of old school" want me to stand around spamming chat channels in the hope of finding groups.

I've been playing MMOs since EQ. I.. like many players.. have grown up, gotten a job, family, home, etc and found that I do don't want to sit around for what little time off I have desperately trying to find a group before I outlevel content.
You can most definately pick the intelligent posts from the silly ones.
5 gold stars to the above.

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NoxiousAlby
03.27.2012 , 10:22 AM | #74
Quote: Originally Posted by sjmc View Post
If new flashpoints came with soloable versions, this would mean that they could add developers to the flashpoint team that would otherwise be working on separate solo content.

I can't think that a slightly-different solo version of a flashpoint would be very difficult to make if they do it at the same time as the group version. Certainly it must be significantly less work than making completely new unrelated content.

This wouldn't necessarily mean that they wouldn't make other solo content. But they could get away with making less of it and still let soloers feel like they got new content.
Another intelligent post
5 gold stars

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Kalfear
03.27.2012 , 10:37 AM | #75
Quote: Originally Posted by Rudrash View Post
seriously... this game is soloable 99%,you want 100% and pay for that monthly?
I have no probably paying a monthly fee for a quality single player game with enough content to keep me active and entertained!

Probalem with most single player RPGs is they are 10 hours to maybe 80 hours and done. I wont pay a monthly fee for that as im usually done in under a month anyways.

TOR has the content as a single player game.

What I will not do when ive finished the current single player content is continue to pay a monthly fee for a failed MMO (as it currently stands for flashpoints and 4 man heroics).

This is 100% a single player game with limited multiplayer access.

You can still run flashpoints with 3 people (or 16 if that floats your boat) if you want.

I have no desire to join any of your guilds and while I disagree with the OP on yelling for a group (ill ask 3-4 times max personally and then move on. I will not beg for a hour like he saying he does).

Its not even the grouping though that makes this a single player game, its the lack of social elements and interaction outside of grouping that makes this a single player game.

I can play this game for 4 hours and see NO GENERAL CHAT usage on most nights. Doesnt matter where I am. And this was the same when there was 100+ in every zone and now when there is 6 during prime time.

There is no community, there is no socialization, and if you need to join a guild and use vent to do content in that setting, people will just cancel and leave. As they clearly are doing already.

Soloable flashpoints do not hurt anyone, but they help many, including EA subscription base as those solo players who want to do flashpoints might now sub a extra month or 3 to run them till bored. Rather then cancelling before running them as bored.

If this was a real MMO I might feel different on soloable flashpoints and heroics but this is not a MMORPG.

This is a Massively Single Player RPG

And im still willing to pay a sub for that, long as Im having fun and doing stuff. Minute Im not having fun and cant do stuff with out selling my soul and dignity, ill cancel and leave! You will still have your mandatory group content, just not as many active subs to support the creation of new content you could play in the future.

Its to late to add in the missing MMO elements and expect a subscription turn around. That boat has sailed. But its not to late to open game up to the solo player and keep them interested longer.
In regards to lessening F2P and Preferred restrictions
In GAMING, as in LIFE,
You get what you pay for
No game restriction is so dire that $15.00/month will not eliminate it

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harpuax
03.27.2012 , 10:47 AM | #76
If you want a single player game I suggest Skyrim, it's a great game. If you feel this game is a single player game it is because you choose to play it that way. Everything in the game can be played in a group and no one is stopping you. Grab your friends and have some fun.

If you are on a dead server, reroll. I know people don't want to hear that, but it's the harsh truth. If you hate the gameplay in this game so much you can't be bothered to level again then maybe this just in't the game for you. If you don't want to go through the same stuff you already leveled through guess what, endgame is the same stuff over and over again too. It doesn't take that long to level and even if it does, the game will still be here in a few months when you do hit 50 again.

Maybe if I go QQ on the Skyrim forums I can get them to add raids.

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Kalfear
03.27.2012 , 10:52 AM | #77
Quote: Originally Posted by Ironspeed View Post
Me and my wife duoed all the flashpoints on normal up to the forge place I think (or D7, cant remeber the order of things, been awhile since I played, maybe it was boarding party?)

It's rather doable with two + companions (exception for us was Colicoid wargame, that just was lol).

Same story as most, takes longer to get a group then to just do it two man and fail a few times in the begining..
yup, i do this with a buddy as well!

But Im fully in favor of the soloable flashpoints because when I play alts (him and I play specific 2 characters togather) im solo and I no longer speak on general, interact with people, talk to people, or pug. (and some cross server lfg tool will not change that).

Im a creature of my surroundings, you have a lively, exciting, happening society and im VERY SOCIABLE, FRIENDLY, HELPFULL. But TOR enviroment doesnt have that, doesnt promote that, so I battled against the patern for a couple months and then gave up and accepted the status quo.

So when im not grouped with my buddy, im solo.

But I still want to do the flashpoints with my alts. I still want to do the 4 man heroics. I already solo the 2 man heroics (and some 4 man heroics depending on alt class).

You know, I wouldnt even really care about the loot. CVhange the drops /rewards to lesser, who cares. not like there is any special loot in this game anyways. I craft all the craft skills (rerolled on this new server 7 weeks ago because it was way more active (not now, not that it mattered, 100+ or 6, no one spoke to each other) and already my armortech, cybertech, artificer, bio over 300 and my weaponstech and synch not far behind) so im in orange modable stuff with up to level mod/armor/enhance/hilt/crystal).

So deminish the drops if that makes the other kids feel better about themselves for playing with others. Really doesnt matter to me, its the content I want to see.

Yup you can do flashpoints to a certain point as a 2 man crew. But Id love to do many flashpoints (when relevant and meaningful) with my solo alts as well!

Besides, the idea of having a conversation where I get +15, -1 (wish minuses were -15 like the plus for negative responces), 0 from the present 3 companions would make it more interesting to balance and figure out! And as someone else mentioned, you usually end up useing just one companion over and over, this way you could have a reason to outfit all your companions fully (I do already for the hell of it but be nice to have a real reason to).
In regards to lessening F2P and Preferred restrictions
In GAMING, as in LIFE,
You get what you pay for
No game restriction is so dire that $15.00/month will not eliminate it

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da_krall
03.27.2012 , 10:55 AM | #78
Seriously, just go buy a single player game............

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Kalfear
03.27.2012 , 10:59 AM | #79
Quote: Originally Posted by da_krall View Post
Seriously, just go buy a single player game............
i did!

SW:TOR
In regards to lessening F2P and Preferred restrictions
In GAMING, as in LIFE,
You get what you pay for
No game restriction is so dire that $15.00/month will not eliminate it

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pRagmata
03.27.2012 , 11:05 AM | #80
First: Why are you playing an game without your friends?

Second: Why are you asking a company to turn a multi-player into a single-player game? That's counter intuitive.

I don't buy/play games without my friends. We play once or twice a week together and it is the most entertaining thing ever. I can only imagine how much fun we would have if we could play more. We have so much fun. Playing multi-player games by yourself is not only sad, but depressing. There are plenty of great single-player RPG games out there. Sure, it may not be Star Wars, but this isn't a single-player game... stop asking it to be. If you don't like it because it isn't a single-player game, unsub. Simple answer for a simple problem. If you just can't stop playing, get some friends to play with you so you don't have to rely on your server-base and then it's a whole new ball game.