Alderaan Warzone: If you're Losing DON"T CAP!

I don't think either side will come to any agreement.

One side is time management vs having fun.


I suppose it's like call of duty where you go around knifing people.

The other players hate it, but it's alot of fun for the individual.


I can understand that, I just don't respect it.

I suppose i deserve it for queueing solo.

First, to address the personal jab there: I don't think I'm Leonidas. I have had my own military record, and that's that. I'm not disillusioned. I know what I have, and have not done. Unless you've had people trying, and in some cases nearly succeeding, in killing you - just keep those thoughts to yourself.

I have not personally attacked you, nor will I. I will however respond to and pick apart arguments that I do not agree with... and as such:

You clearly missed the point. The point is that regardless of RL or video games, the mentality is the same. There are huge differences to be sure (whats at stake etc), but the mentality is no different.

Training at an MMA school when we did jiu jitsu we were supposed to pair off and spar. I being relatively new to jiu jitsu walked up to the blue and purple belts and asked them to roll with me.

They of course questioned the white belt asking to roll with them...

I replied by stating "I will learn more from rolling with you guys than I will by rolling with another white belt."

Simple fact of the matter is you can't improve by playing people who aren't as good as you are (i.e. you're dominating a match). You learn more from adversity, and that's just how it is.

If you can't see how any of these different comparisons apply, then you're really just not willing to consider anything besides your opinion. In fact, I'm 100% sure you aren't doing anything more than trying to discredit an entire post by simply picking out one aspect you disagree with.

You highlighted my comparison, disregarded where I spoke of it's relevency, and completely ignored my references to the commendations you covet so much.

When you face a team that is obviously winning, you should be doing what you can. It's that simple. You are rewarded for it both in your personal skill increasing, learning new ways to improve your tactics, and you get your commendations.

Since you're big on the mathematics:

Ending a game a minute or two early (saving 120s? really?) gets you no closer to your goal mathmatically. Either way you go back to a queue, and half the time quitters quit as they always do, only to end up rejoining the exact same match they left.

Your arguments are just fail, and it really seems like you're just trolling people's responses at this point since you already know there are very few supporters for you here.

Ive been in an Alderaan won with 5 points left thanks to a 3 cap. Never give up. Never surrender because those are the matches you remember.

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The time management side generally can respect players who have a good reason to "never give up". We understand that there are exceptions to every rule, and not to overgeneralize or deal in absolutes. But the "never give up" side can't seem to acknowledge mathematics and statistics because it would probably cause them too much cognitive dissonance. Some can concede that the reward rate is faster but many others are in denial.

Majority of posters in this thread don't even read the thread title, or think that we're talking about when the score is 600-550 or something.

Hmmm. "You disagree with me, therefore you are stupid and illiterate."

Even if it is impossible to win without a 3-cap, my preference is to try to win back turrets. I'm pretty sure I understand all the issues, including the math and statistics.

This is why i use the term warzone troll

The time management side generally can respect players who have a good reason to "never give up". We understand that there are exceptions to every rule, and not to overgeneralize or deal in absolutes. But the "never give up" side can't seem to acknowledge mathematics and statistics because it would probably cause them too much cognitive dissonance. Some can concede that the reward rate is faster but many others are in denial.

Majority of posters in this thread don't even read the thread title, or think that we're talking about when the score is 600-550 or something.

Yeah I'm not sure how to argue w someone that will equate running Warzones to real life wartime combat and ignores logic and statistics for personal pride.

you can "chatter" about all the stupid people which cannot see that being 300 behind in civil war is "mathematical" impossible if you don't 3 cap.

Hi OP et al,

You and more specifically Tyraelium keep mentioning statistics.

Out of curiousity could you explain what place you feel statistics have in this discussion?

Regards
Wolf