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The Jedi Shadow Handbook v2.0

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The Jedi Shadow Handbook v2.0

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Philosomanic
03.26.2012 , 04:12 PM | #21
Quote: Originally Posted by shagatha View Post
Never noticed but gotta check it next time I'm balance. I stopped watching procs on char after coming from sith assassin -> shadow because infiltration tactics didn't glow like it does on sith. Which is a shame.
Yeah, Balance shadows glow constantly. You flash gold for almost a second every time a DoT crits or FiB heals you, you glow gold when Force Strikes is up, and you glow even brighter gold when Resilience is up. Also, your three force skills all involve golden light effects.

Way cooler looking than yoyo lightsaber Infiltrations or junk-throwing Kinetcs surrounded by floating junk :P
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rakuenCallisto
03.26.2012 , 05:07 PM | #22
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Thanks! I'm glad to help.

Ideally, this guide would be maintained by three people, each one an expert in one spec. I'm really knowledgeable about Balance, but I don't feel good enough about the others to give much advice. I know the basics, but I haven't really played them enough to really know what works.

Also, I enjoy how you added a line saying that Balance glows every time a DoT crits :P

EDIT: Ooh, Dev post. Cool ^^
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Kai-Eurah-Tird
03.26.2012 , 05:25 PM | #23
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Yeah, Balance shadows glow constantly. You flash gold for almost a second every time a DoT crits or FiB heals you, you glow gold when Force Strikes is up, and you glow even brighter gold when Resilience is up. Also, your three force skills all involve golden light effects.

Way cooler looking than yoyo lightsaber Infiltrations or junk-throwing Kinetcs surrounded by floating junk :P
Oh great. . . now instead of being largely unnoticed, we get the Look-at-me-I-glow-please-come-kill-me aura.

I like subtle visual cues, like the jedi knight's saber flare up whenever they can riposte. Glowy aura is a little over the top for a class that's suppose to be "shadowy" and "subtle."

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Zintair
03.26.2012 , 05:53 PM | #24
Quote: Originally Posted by Kai-Eurah-Tird View Post
Oh great. . . now instead of being largely unnoticed, we get the Look-at-me-I-glow-please-come-kill-me aura.

I like subtle visual cues, like the jedi knight's saber flare up whenever they can riposte. Glowy aura is a little over the top for a class that's suppose to be "shadowy" and "subtle."
I dunno, it's a lot better than ridiculous pink and purple lightning flying across the battlefield directly from your oh see easily seen character.

I think that it's pretty good because it's not like there's something that can be done about it. Its instant cast, no one is going to be able to see the golden color and immediately know to CC. If they do, you'll eventually get full resolved especially if they need to CC from range as those are the higher resolve hitters.

Not to mention the Champ robes are yellowish/ brownish on the stalker.
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shagatha
03.26.2012 , 10:02 PM | #25
By the way: Anyone else have ended up trying build 3/35/3? Made it up myself 2 days back and loving it. I don't miss upheaval that eats up my potency charges and also it's not guaranteed to get extra rocks even if you go upheaval so you can't trust in it.

+ Battle readiness more often(results more damage)
+ Cheaper whirling blow(pve and occasionally in pvp too for example to prevent multiple cappers)
+ Stronger armor penetration(results more damage with right conditions)
+ A bit better slow(noticed it's barely long enough to be very useful)

- No more 45% chance to get extra rock when using project. Which eats potency and is only 50% of the damage vs normal rock.


On a different note. Build 5/33/3 wich is mentioned in a handbook seems pretty bad. "Applied force" but no "Celerity". That's a bad choice imo and shouldn't be encouraged. Once it's fixed the build starts looking like my 3/35/3. I play all specs so I'm not infiltration specialist but I think this error in a build seems obvious. What do you all think?
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Philosomanic
03.27.2012 , 07:28 AM | #26
Quote: Originally Posted by Kai-Eurah-Tird View Post
Oh great. . . now instead of being largely unnoticed, we get the Look-at-me-I-glow-please-come-kill-me aura.

I like subtle visual cues, like the jedi knight's saber flare up whenever they can riposte. Glowy aura is a little over the top for a class that's suppose to be "shadowy" and "subtle."
You say this like it's a new thing. It's been like that ever since I started playing Balance.

The funny thing is, you're actually really hard to spot. There's no connection between you and your target. When a blaster-wielder shoots someone, you can follow the bolts back to see where it's coming from. Same with lightning and whatnot. Project and TK Throw let them see where it came from.

Balance effects don't have anything you throw or any effects connecting you. You wave your hands, they start glowing. They'll spot you eventually, but it's far slower. Since Balance is so rare, I doubt more than one or two people are going to see the Balance effects on themselves, recognize it, and know to look for someone glowing. And if they do, they'll know it's pretty easy for a Balance Shadow to run away.
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Caceyn
03.27.2012 , 08:09 AM | #27
Zintair, If you need an Inf shadow, I can help you there. I've been Inf 100% of the time leveling and all throughout PVP (WZ's only mind you) up to 55 valor level now as Inf. Small time spent as Kinetic to test out all the hub ub and didn't like it.

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jbuschell
03.27.2012 , 08:17 AM | #28
I really dont understand why more people don't play balance its a blast and the Dmg is top notch
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shagatha
03.27.2012 , 08:27 AM | #29
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I really dont understand why more people don't play balance its a blast and the Dmg is top notch
I'm only 1/3 of the week. It's lovely but still it's nice to see some big numbers every once in a while. I still play kinetic too but it's getting more boring every passing day.
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jbuschell
03.27.2012 , 08:32 AM | #30
Tell me about it I litterally fell asleep playing KC in a wz, I woke up drooling on the keyboard at like 4 in the morning like ***
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