No Cross Realm LFG tool please!

Ha that's a great argument. "Community has nothing to do with facts, it can't be proved, it has to be believed!".

com·mu·ni·ty [kuh-myoo-ni-tee]
noun, plural -ties.

1. a social group of any size whose members reside in a specific locality, share government, and often have a common cultural and historical heritage.
2. a locality inhabited by such a group.
3. a social, religious, occupational, or other group sharing common characteristics or interests and perceived or perceiving itself as distinct in some respect from the larger society within which it exists (usually preceded by the ): the business community; the community of scholars.
4. a group of associated nations sharing common interests or a common heritage: the community of Western Europe.
5. Ecclesiastical . a group of men or women leading a common life according to a rule.

In the context of the game it would be virtual location. The players with characters on a single server. Just as your town, city, little suburban area would be considered a community where you live. Some of the members of the community you will get along with some you wouldn't.

I don't understand how you can say a community cannot be proved? I can give you a list of names that is a sample of the community on any given server. There are numbers (we may not have accurate numbers) with the average numbers of members of the community on at a given point in time. Etc etc etc.

This forums is another form of community. So tell me why can't a community not be proved?

Here's a positive story. I actually found my Guild through the LFD tool. Joined up for a run and by chance three other members of the party were from the same guild and from my server. We had a laugh running, chatting and even when we wiped we laughed about it. So after the run I asked about applying to their guild, as I was currently looking for one from having rerolled on a new server.
Spent a great time with that guild.

com·mu·ni·ty [kuh-myoo-ni-tee]
noun, plural -ties.

1. a social group of any size whose members reside in a specific locality, share government, and often have a common cultural and historical heritage.
2. a locality inhabited by such a group.
3. a social, religious, occupational, or other group sharing common characteristics or interests and perceived or perceiving itself as distinct in some respect from the larger society within which it exists (usually preceded by the ): the business community; the community of scholars.
4. a group of associated nations sharing common interests or a common heritage: the community of Western Europe.
5. Ecclesiastical . a group of men or women leading a common life according to a rule.

In the context of the game it would be virtual location.

I don't understand how you can say a community cannot be proved?

DOOOMMMM!!!

That's basically what I hear from the ani-x-server LFD people. The game will be destroyed by loot stealing, anonymous pre-teens with no sense on community or any other social skills.

Community is what you make of it. Having an LFD tool x-server or not won't prevent you from talking in general chat, making a guild, building your own group, or socializing in any fashion. It will however help you to fill the final slot in your group when you log in at off peak time and you and your 1 or 2 friends who happen to be on at that time want to kill a few bosses.

Granted the person you might pick up in such a tool might be just that, such a tool. But you have to take the bad with the good. Chances are that person you pick up might turn out to be a really nice and social person. Yes, the chances of you seeing that nice, friendly helpful PUG from another server are zero to none but was the time you spent with them not worth it?

Loot stealing and griefing are definitely going to be a concern but you can't let something like that ruin the game play for you. Grow a thicker skin and try for the loot again. It's not going to disappear just because some one stole it from you.

He's paraphrasing the person he's responding to, including some text that was in other posts (that's why that statement is in quotes). He's not arguing that communities don't exist.

specifically, I think he's ridiculing the arguments that are of the form "you don't have to understand; we believe it to be so"

The runs are not allways perfect and you do get bad players at times

Here's a positive story. I actually found my Guild through the LFD tool. Joined up for a run and by chance three other members of the party were from the same guild and from my server. We had a laugh running, chatting and even when we wiped we laughed about it. So after the run I asked about applying to their guild, as I was currently looking for one from having rerolled on a new server.
Spent a great time with that guild.

yeah, but, what if that player is main cause of bad groups

than ofc all groups will be "bad" and you became another acolyte of anti-lfg religion

My guild recruited a few players in the exact same fashion. In fact, we even recruited a raid tank in this manner. One of the guild's healers queued up one evening and met this amazing tank that was a lot of fun to play with and talked about looking for a raid spot. We told him we had an immediate opening for a shield tank and he paid for a server transfer that same day. He's been one of our regular tanks every week since.