What’s the difference between the new combat log and recount?

Thats the whole point. Guilds can use it correctly, puggers cant use it incorrectly. Problem mostly solved.

Yet you still have people crying about how it's being implemented. Raids aren't going to be effected by the change. But PUGs sure will, which IMO is where the misuse of the DPS meter really stuck out. At least before, the folks who really wanted them to belittle PUG players were able to hide behind the "personal improvement and raid leader use". Now, we can see their true colors.

fixed that for you. both guilds and pugs can use it; it's just inconvenient.

of course; badly designed features that are inconvenient to use are going to cause people to complain.

well, yeah, raids won't be brought about because of the change.

The will be affected by the change though.

eh, those people are still going to belittle pug players; they'll just use subjective reasons that the pug players won't be able to defend themselves against.

That is the point: it's supposed to be inconvenient and not easily accessible for the dregs of the gaming community to abuse. That's why you cannot have nice things made extremely convenient: the dregs of the gaming community.

You might never have to or had to put up with or deal with the dregs of the gaming community, but many others have had to and don't like having to.

lol, right ... good luck getting 3 random people you never met to email you their logs so you can make sure everyone is playing to your standards.

people do it on a regular basis in wow; I've seen "Get in vent for the raid or you get no loot" on multiple occasions for example.

Nor is emailing necessarily going to be required... I wouldn't be surprised to see something like the live WoL client in the not too distant future

No, the dregs in no way prevent it from being convenient.


if the goal is to prevent the dregs from being able to use it in certain circumstances, it's quite possible to make it so that they can't use it without making it inconvenient for everyone else.

Nor does stopping the dregs from accessing this prevent them from ridiculing or griefing people. It just stops people from having objective ways to defend themselves from said dregs...

I'm smart enough not to run pugs with those people in wow (since the prevalence of gearscore and recount makes them easy to spot), and if I happen to get matched with them in a random lfd (which happens maybe 1 or 2% of the time), I can easily stop seeing anything they have to say...

So I don't really know what you mean by "put up" or "deal with" ... the former isn't something you have to do, and the latter is as easy as right clicking on their name and clicking an item from a list.

And the upshot of this implementation is that BioWare is creating barriers to their own content.

I'm certain you are on the "right" side of both debates.

Exactly. In the absence of objective data, most people assume that the person with the biggest e-peen is in fact carrying the raid. I'd rather have numbers than attitude.