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DigitalPrime
03.27.2012 , 07:05 AM | #71
Quote: Originally Posted by chaosdefined View Post
Right, so you're working entirely on assumptions. Now it makes sense.
No offence, but half of the claims for x-server are assumptions. Just read back! some are funny to be honest!

x-server fixes the population problem in instances, thats it. remove that and add a server merge. This fixes the population problem in instances, PVP and in the open world.

So yeh, ill go with my assumptions that some people are only looking for ones loot.

Server merge wins hands down, hence why all MMOs do it.

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ferroz
03.27.2012 , 07:07 AM | #72
Quote: Originally Posted by Varghjerta View Post
There is a reason players have been joining as a tank and then saying that they are not tanking they just there just waiting until a dps leave so he can get a faster group
I've only seen that once in more than 1000 dungeon runs.


Quote: Originally Posted by DigitalPrime View Post
Server merges are coming, It happens in all new MMOs. but half of this thread shun that idea. God knows why, but noooooo, server merge wont help blah blah blah.
because it doesn't help... you cannot have enough people on a server to make groups at all hours of the day at all levels of the game work.

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which leads me to believe most of the people who want x-server LFD are only bothered about ones badge ratio.
No, it's the getting groups quickly ratio... I don't think that anyone who is in favor of cross server lfg has said anything about badges.


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With a LFD tool and a server merge X-server LFD is still needed!
fixed that for you

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ferroz
03.27.2012 , 07:09 AM | #73
Quote: Originally Posted by DigitalPrime View Post
but half of the claims for x-server are assumptions. Just read back! some are funny to be honest!
Feel free to post some of them.

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x-server fixes the population problem in instances, thats it.
partially Correct

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remove that and add a server merge. This fixes the population problem in instances, PVP and in the open world.
No, it still doesn't fix the low level instance problem; those still become less and less used, no matter how many people are on the server. Cross server demonstrably fixes that.

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ZORG
03.27.2012 , 07:09 AM | #74
Quote: Originally Posted by ConradLionhart View Post
I approve of LFD, but only if:
1. it is on the same server
2. it does not port you to the flashpoint
Why would you be against it porting you to the flashpoint?
Right now WZ port you in. They dont make you goto the station to join a WZ.

Ide like the ability to join groups from a cantina or my ship. Do the quests and then port back do some crafting with any resources i get then go out again.

Perhaps I am out in the middle of belsavis an I need help with a 4 man. Perhaps a friend or guildy or even some stranger is on Hoth. I want it as easy and as convienient for that person to come help me.... So i want a shuttle to go pick them up and drop them off at my location. I also would like an option for those that do join me to elect to stay grouped and do other quests togather.
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DigitalPrime
03.27.2012 , 07:09 AM | #75
Quote: Originally Posted by ferroz View Post
I've only seen that once in more than 1000 dungeon runs.


because it doesn't help... you cannot have enough people on a server to make groups at all hours of the day at all levels of the game work.



No, it's the getting groups quickly ratio... I don't think that anyone who is in favor of cross server lfg has said anything about badges.


fixed that for you
Arh. so now the straw hat of "you cannot have enough people on a server to make groups at all hours of the day"


Brilliant, Just brilliant lol

So server merges which has been around since MMOs, which have worked to keep the population thriving and content flowing is no good because of the times of the day. brilliant lol.

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chaosdefined
03.27.2012 , 07:11 AM | #76
Quote: Originally Posted by DigitalPrime View Post
No offence, but half of the claims for x-server are assumptions. Just read back! some are funny to be honest!

x-server fixes the population problem in instances, thats it. remove that and add a server merge. This fixes the population problem in instances, PVP and in the open world.

So yeh, ill go with my assumptions that some people are only looking for ones loot.

Server merge wins hands down, hence why all MMOs do it.
Server merges are a short term fix. We have given plenty of facts as to how Cross Server LFD tools have improved gameplay and increased the games performance. You chose to ignore those and spout off wild claims about mythical communities and cry about that time a stranger on the internet was mean to you.

Other MMO's merge servers then their subscriptions are dropping too low. Yes it would be helpful, but it is only part of the solution, it is not the only solution.

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DigitalPrime
03.27.2012 , 07:12 AM | #77
Quote: Originally Posted by ferroz View Post
Feel free to post some of them.

partially Correct

No, it still doesn't fix the low level instance problem; those still become less and less used, no matter how many people are on the server. Cross server demonstrably fixes that.
No, what fixes the low level instance problem is new players. New players to each server. this is everyday MMO mechnanics.

How did all those MMOs before WoWs 2009 incarnation survive ey... it boggling!

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Reevax
03.27.2012 , 07:12 AM | #78
Quote: Originally Posted by DigitalPrime View Post
No offence, but half of the claims for x-server are assumptions. Just read back! some are funny to be honest!

x-server fixes the population problem in instances, thats it. remove that and add a server merge. This fixes the population problem in instances, PVP and in the open world.

So yeh, ill go with my assumptions that some people are only looking for ones loot.

Server merge wins hands down, hence why all MMOs do it.
This game needs X-server for the long run, like it or not.

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ferroz
03.27.2012 , 07:14 AM | #79
Quote: Originally Posted by DigitalPrime View Post
Arh. so now the straw hat of "you cannot have enough people on a server to make groups at all hours of the day"
I notice that you can't seem to refute it, so you're just labeling it and dismissing it.


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So server merges which has been around since MMOs, which have worked to keep the population thriving and content flowing is no good because of the times of the day. brilliant lol.
false; low level dungeons in mmos become unused over time. The population on even the most populated wow severs wasn't enough to make low level instances be used, but cross server lfg made them so commonly used that it's rare to run into people who haven't run low level dungeons since they added cross server lfd.

You can't cram enough people on the server to fix the issues low level instances and people running instances way off peak.

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Valkirus
03.27.2012 , 07:15 AM | #80
Quote: Originally Posted by DigitalPrime View Post
No offence, but half of the claims for x-server are assumptions. Just read back! some are funny to be honest!

x-server fixes the population problem in instances, thats it. remove that and add a server merge. This fixes the population problem in instances, PVP and in the open world.

So yeh, ill go with my assumptions that some people are only looking for ones loot.

Server merge wins hands down, hence why all MMOs do it.
All MMO's donot do server merges. WoW is one which has'nt. What they do is offer free and paid char transfers to other servers. This use to be common before they added the cross server Looking for Group feature. Now..it is only paid which I have noticed. With crosss server LFG tool, there is no need to merge servers.

TOR needs a cross server tool for finding groups for the same reasons WoW needed them.....to allow more game content more accessable to more players. Who by the way, also pay a sub. A same server LFG tool will be a good start, but eventually they need a cross server one to allow a bigger pool of players from which to form the groups.
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