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No Cross Realm LFG tool please!


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chaosdefined
03.27.2012 , 05:46 AM | #41
Quote: Originally Posted by DigitalPrime View Post
I hate the badge/ratio mentalitiy. And i feel this is why the minority want x-server LFG systems. So they can keep there badge ratio in tact.

It makes me laugh reading this thread, Reading "how does a x-server destroy community"

Im just sat here thinking, its obvious your were not there kid. when MMOs were social friendly places.

Hopefully TOR wont go down this route of lobby MMOs "magic one button", and hopefully keep to a server based community.
Badge Rewards and Cross Server LFG are too different things. We're not asking for loot from badges, we're asking for the ability to actually get into a flashpoint often.

And most of us were there for Vanilla WoW etc, did you not read how we said nothing has changed except for player mentality. That has nothing to do with the Tool, just the new players.

WoW is still a social and friendly place. The X-Server LFG Tool helps people to actually play the game.

I'd love to see your facts proving it is infact the minority who want this tool though. Though I suppose we can let the subs do the talking, because let's face it, people are more likely to quit the game due to LACK of features rather than having OPTIONAL features ingame.

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Vektarulz
03.27.2012 , 05:48 AM | #42
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iT-0hkNtIhg

one reason light-servers need stuff like this

cross server stuff i needed if i had the option id say cross server pvp over over cross server pve because ive been playen since day 1 and am highest valor on server with only 54(yes our server is that dead) when they finally do release ranked im going into ranked against full battle-master guys in my champ outfit and dont have no way to get anythen better :P i guess i could go in full rakata when i finish raid en
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DigitalPrime
03.27.2012 , 05:50 AM | #43
Quote: Originally Posted by chaosdefined View Post
Badge Rewards and Cross Server LFG are too different things. We're not asking for loot from badges, we're asking for the ability to actually get into a flashpoint often.

And most of us were there for Vanilla WoW etc, did you not read how we said nothing has changed except for player mentality. That has nothing to do with the Tool, just the new players.

WoW is still a social and friendly place. The X-Server LFG Tool helps people to actually play the game.

I'd love to see your facts proving it is infact the minority who want this tool though. Though I suppose we can let the subs do the talking, because let's face it, people are more likely to quit the game due to LACK of features rather than having OPTIONAL features ingame.
So now people are not subbing due to lack of features. This just gets better

Last week - lack of content

Week before - Ilum

Week before that - Bugs

Week before that - bored at 50


Now its the lack of features such as x-server LFD LOL


Strawman!

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DigitalPrime
03.27.2012 , 05:51 AM | #44
Quote: Originally Posted by Vektarulz View Post
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iT-0hkNtIhg

one reason light-servers need stuff like this

cross server stuff i needed if i had the option id say cross server pvp over over cross server pve because ive been playen since day 1 and am highest valor on server with only 54(yes our server is that dead) when they finally do release ranked im going into ranked against full battle-master guys in my champ outfit and dont have no way to get anythen better :P i guess i could go in full rakata when i finish raid en
Server merge would sort this, server merges happen in all new MMOs.
Paitence is a virtue!

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chaosdefined
03.27.2012 , 05:56 AM | #45
Quote: Originally Posted by DigitalPrime View Post
So now people are not subbing due to lack of features. This just gets better

Last week - lack of content

Week before - Ilum

Week before that - Bugs

Week before that - bored at 50


Now its the lack of features such as x-server LFD LOL


Strawman!
I don't think you understand what a Strawman argument is.

Also Bored at 50, Lack of Content and Lack Of Features can all be put in the same category.

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chaosdefined
03.27.2012 , 05:57 AM | #46
Quote: Originally Posted by DigitalPrime View Post
Server merge would sort this, server merges happen in all new MMOs.
Paitence is a virtue!
EA don't want to do server merges because to their investors it'll look like their game is losing popularity.

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terminova
03.27.2012 , 05:58 AM | #47
Quote: Originally Posted by Meldwyn View Post
I am going to have to call you on this... WoW had a mechanism in place that prevented anyone with dps as their role, from taking loot designed for tanks (and all manor of other combinations)! It wasn't even an option to NEED on it. So, you sir, are misinformed or lying for some reason.
No, you are misinformed. Greatly, in fact. WoW, in 2005 did not have such a mechanism. Neither did WoW have such a mechanism until quite a few years later, and, at the time of Cataclysm, only applied to level 60+ dungeons, not sub-level 60 dungeons. Then, to keep players from abusing the heavily modified NBG loot system, they had to lock any item Needed on in a dungeon to the player to keep it from being used as a method of getting BoE epics maybe one other person could roll on but the player didn't actually need simply to sell on the AH for thousands of gold. Blizzard even stated that was why they were implementing that particular change, as well.

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And, how often were you kicked by a 4-person guild from a different server because they wanted another guildie? Seriously, how many times? Now, divide that by how many times you used the system. What's the fraction of a percentage you come up with?
Red herring. Doesn't matter how many times a single player was kicked or a particular player was kicked or if one specific person was never or ever kicked for that reason. The fact is that Blizzard saw what was happening with the cross server LFD system (because they own and run the servers) and saw that players were forming groups of 3-4, and using that to their advantage to boot someone for no reason other than to bring their buddy in just before the last boss, or to simply filter through the DPS role players. If that wasn't actually happening on a regular basis, there wouldn't have been a need for restricting the vote-kick rule, for requiring more votes to kick a member of the group if 3-4 of the players joined the LFD system as a partial group.

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Bad arguments are just bad!!
You are right, they are. Please stop making them.
Quote: Originally Posted by Toxen View Post
I support...wait, which thread is this? Sorry, I'm following a lot of flame wars at the moment. Uh, oh yeah, clicking!

I support clicking!

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DarthKhaos
03.27.2012 , 05:59 AM | #48
Quote: Originally Posted by navarh View Post
so you saying that other 3ppl in FP group is not players? their time have no value, they always ready to wait you…

haha
no
lie

if you need a party you stay at fleet, why?
because if you travel to belsawis, that is a fk ton of loading screens, station, coridors and other garbage
and when party ready you repeat all this ***t in descending order yet again… no thanks
Quote: Originally Posted by Reevax View Post
I got it, so no real argument against LFD expect YOU don't like it. Cool.
To both of you no. Firstly the majority here is NOT against LFG. It's against cross server LFG. I was just explaining why a non transport system cannot work for PvP.

When I talk about the time it takes to get to the portal I'm not even talking about load screens. I'm talking about how people react. you know some people would be like "Let me finish this quest." or "I gotta go get something to drink quick." some reason to delay reaching the portal. In PvE when the group is delayed they are not at a disadvantage for the encounter. For PvP they are.

And Reevax everyone here reason for wanting or not wanting something IS because they do or don't want it. The difference is some can convey their thoughts better than others.
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DigitalPrime
03.27.2012 , 05:59 AM | #49
Quote: Originally Posted by chaosdefined View Post
EA don't want to do server merges because to their investors it'll look like their game is losing popularity.
Thats a new one!

Keep em coming!

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chaosdefined
03.27.2012 , 06:01 AM | #50
Quote: Originally Posted by terminova View Post


You are right, they are. Please stop making them.
Your accusing others of making bad arguments for the X-Server LFG, yet the only complaint that any of you are making is "A stranger was rude to me on an internet game.".

Please, just grow up and get over it.