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Alderaan Warzone: If you're Losing DON"T CAP!

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Alderaan Warzone: If you're Losing DON"T CAP!

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astrocanis
03.26.2012 , 12:57 PM | #231
Quote: Originally Posted by Nicain View Post
You fail at reading comprehension as you would have had to have read and understood everything I said, which you didn't, to connect the dots.

So you fail at chess and reading, yet you want us to think your opinion matters?
I am working towards a master rating (I'm at 2035). You're wrong. He's right.

Still want to play this game?

If you are going to beat the crap out of somebody by stating an amateur position, be prepared to be called on it.

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Ybini
03.26.2012 , 01:04 PM | #232
I say keep going if you're low on medals. There is a point just because you're going to get your fill doesn't mean anyone else playing has theirs.

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Scoobings
03.26.2012 , 01:07 PM | #233
Quote: Originally Posted by Nytak View Post
Winners never quit, and quitters never win.

I sure hope you don't have this same pathetic 'give up' mentality in real life.
You can't reque in real life and start a new one. Unless you believe in reincarnation.
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yeux
03.26.2012 , 01:09 PM | #234
Quote: Originally Posted by Astarica View Post
Unless you have self mutiliation abilities (Sorcs) you'll only get 2 medals for defender, and you'll rarely get the second one if you're losing badly since the game will end too fast.

Even the 'lose quick' strategy requires some offensive production to get the 4 medals, unless you're a Sorc.
I run into this all the time bc i nearly always solo or duo guard a turret for the duration. the second is usually there so I can throw guard on them and get back before the turret is capped.

Now im not so worried about the valor or comms myself since im well over BM, but I usually ask the team to send someone over at around 300, either side, so that my partner can go get their medals. its the least they can do for you giving up all that extra valor/comms in order to allow them more people to cap with

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Astarica
03.26.2012 , 01:11 PM | #235
It's practically unfathomable to overcome a 2:1 disadvantage in score unless you got essentially a new team because every weak player happened to quit and replaced by a good player who didn't quit in the first place.

Out of all the games I've played, the only game I overcame a 2:1 disadvantage was like 60:25 when we 3 capped with an all out assault (no one was defending our only turret), and the fact that it was 60:25 shows the game was actually pretty close to begin with.

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xoaxie
03.26.2012 , 01:15 PM | #236
If you top the parse of every pvp match in heals, dps and medals, and your teammates can't keep up. QUIT, wait for the next match and hope for a better pug. If you have a skilled premade then you won't likely lose to any pug. Pugs are for fun or to finish your daily quest, if a group of sub 20 unskilled slackers are dragging you down, then ditch them.
Why should we carry the helpless?
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olagaton
03.26.2012 , 01:17 PM | #237
Quote: Originally Posted by face_hindu View Post
All you squids who advocate quitting in the face of adversity:

Post your toon and server name.

Why hasn't anyone taken me up on this?

Maybe because you know you're BAD, and you want to stay anonymous.

Ah, the internet.

Tell me to my face about how you think I should let the other guys win, about how I should just roll over like a pansy.

Some people are givers and some are takers.

C'mon takers, post your toons and servers. Any of you have the cajones?

Oh wait, I'm talking to a bunch of people who roll over and die in the face of tough odds.

Of course you won't show yourselves.
You're silly. Many people say this stuff in-game, so they are absolutely putting their name out there as those that believe this is the best move. Just because you can't see the common sense in the act doesn't mean it's not common sense.

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Nytak
03.26.2012 , 01:19 PM | #238
Quote: Originally Posted by Scoobings View Post
You can't reque in real life and start a new one. Unless you believe in reincarnation.
What does that have to do with anything I said??

Losing attitudes are for losers, which is exactly the attitude the OP is expressing.
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Pistols
03.26.2012 , 01:25 PM | #239
Quote: Originally Posted by Nicain View Post
You fail at reading comprehension as you would have had to have read and understood everything I said, which you didn't, to connect the dots.

So you fail at chess and reading, yet you want us to think your opinion matters?
Perhaps you should just be polite, and quit already, nobody cares that you rollover easily.

GG.

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Grubfist
03.26.2012 , 01:48 PM | #240
Quote: Originally Posted by Draqsko View Post
Huge difference, "checkmate" in CW is when the score is 3x+5:x (i.e. 305:100, 155:50, etc.), not 2x:x like everyone has been posting. At 2x:x score in CW, you are not mathematically eliminated, therefore you should not quit, because there is always the chance the other side gets cocky, goes medal farming, goes AFK, turret guard(s) DC's from the server, etc. enabling you to pull out that 30 second 3 cap with 2 capping the rest of the game to pull out that 5,10,15 to 0 win. Been there, done that on PUGs that refused to roll over and die, and those are the hardest fought, most gratifying wins I've ever had.

You shouldn't deny yourself or anyone else the chance to snatch victory from the jaws of defeat, because only when the whole group never gives up is when you pull off those "miraculous" comebacks. They are only miraculous in the eyes of quitters, because never giving up from start to finish is the only way you will ever win sometimes.

As a side note, speeding up a loss does not equate to respawning into a new WZ faster. On my server, with 10-15 minute queues for WZs, just means you are spending that extra 3-5 minutes waiting for a new WZ. So you are not farming more valor or medals any faster than me, in fact I may get MORE medals and valor for not giving up, because i'm still scoring medals in those 3-5 minutes, getting 5 or 6 medals in a losing WZ, instead of just 3-4 medals. Meanwhile you are sitting in the queue doing nothing. Maybe that's why I have full level 40 pvp gear, and 1000 merc and wz comms at level 38 *ponder*
You're not "Mathematically eliminated" until your counter hits 0. I've seen a match start with a 3-cap and end with the team that had the poor start winning 235-0

People get overconfident, people make mistakes, people have rough starts, people find themselves in better positions to help in the later game.
There's all sorts of factors. Victory may not be LIKELY, but it's POSSIBLE.

And even if I could see the future and know my team would lose without ever capping a base, I would still go out there and fight. Why? Because I like fighting. I like to try and put the scare in enemies, I like to test myself against bad odds, I like to see people asplode.

I'm not gonna let them win. Ever. I'm gonna make them work for it as much as I can.
If I don't want to go through with the rest of the match, I'll do the polite thing and quit. I've done it before, not often, but I've done it.

Let people have their fun. You may have more fun by getting out of that match more quickly. You can do that. Exit Warzone. I'm sorry if me fighting makes you sad that you can't get your rewards and also have a quick match, but you are asking me to surrender, which to me, is just as rude as my continued fighting seems to be to you.

I do apologize if the way I play annoys you. I heard that ignoring players will make the queue try to avoid putting you in a match with them. Maybe try that out. But I'm not gonna sit on my hands and refuse to have fun just because YOU don't think it's fun.