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Please split WZ between 1 to 30 and 31 to 49

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Please split WZ between 1 to 30 and 31 to 49

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Khalda
03.26.2012 , 05:25 AM | #31
Bolster has nothing to do with it, if you look at stats on a lvl 10 as opposed to a lvl 49, the difference in stats are minimal, the biggest difference is what skills you have access to at lvl 10 as opposed to lvl 49. I think this is why people feel 10-49 is unfair, in reality a lvl 49 does have a huge advantage over a level 10 just with skill points and actual abilities at their disposal.

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Gformutorila
03.26.2012 , 05:59 AM | #32
I recently started with an alt operative healer. A couple of times, I was told to leave the battle before the battle had started because I was to low level. My alt is lvl20 and I basically have 1 healing ability and 0 defence abilities. So right now I am not doing so great.
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islander
03.26.2012 , 09:48 AM | #33
I'm a level 22 marauder who started doing 1-49 at level 10.

Do your best, cry less (not specifically pointed at anyone in particular). KNOW that when you own a nub that's 25 levels over you in talents and skilled, that you did somethign relevant.

I struggle in Huttball for reasons the last poster mentioned, but I MORE then hold my own in Alderaan and Voidstar.

Going forward in 1.2, Voidstar becomes Empire/Empire as well. Also, Novare Coast is also Empire/Empire. I personally will enjoy less huttball as a lowbie melee. I mean, I like huttball, it just doesn't like me that much

So, get better, not bitter. That's my mantra. Yeah I get creamed a lot in Huttball, but you do get better at it. Stop complaining, and get back in there and kill someone
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Luciferhawke
03.26.2012 , 09:52 AM | #34
yes please split them

the 45 mins queue time for Republic on my server is not nearly long enough. And this was at 7:30pm PDT on a Sunday. Then the game ended with not enough people.

Then i jump on my Imp Powertech...get a huttball in 2 minutes. Yea splitting them is a great idea, just like removing cross factions in huttball. Must be nice for imps to level and get their comms/valor so quickly. (before 1.2 anyways)

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LepidusRayne
03.26.2012 , 09:55 AM | #35
Few things:

10-19 players actually have better stats and gear than most level 40 players unless they are geared in epics for their level. SWTOR system does this on purpose. The major reason they lose has nothing to do with gear or stats, its the lack of skills and talents that makes them lose. I have all but like 4 of my castable skills bound at 50 and use them all at least once a WZ. A 10-19 has less than half of those and no talents. So yes I agree with you there is a difference but its not where you say it is. The gear stats difference was already fixed by bioware, but why didn't they do anything about skills and talents.

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Monoth
03.26.2012 , 09:56 AM | #36
Quote: Originally Posted by Salubrie View Post
Lets face it. Any player attempting PvP from 10 to 19 is not going to have any fun. Why? because you are going against players that already have a huge gear difference. Before anyone even brings up the "buff". It is a complete non factor. The expertise you get from gear at 40 breaks the buff in every way.

You need only look at the numbers at the end of a match. Level 40 plus will have up to 10 times the healing, damage of lower level players. No i am not exaggerating.

If you are unwilling to put in different brackets than at least give the 10 to 19 levels an extra buff so we can survive more than 2 shots.
When did they put Expertise on lvl 40 pvp gear?

I just hit 50 maybe a month ago and before that all the PvP lvl 40 gear had no Expertise on it.... and as a lvl 14-20 I had no issues PvP'ing in warzones... I thought it was the most balanced PvP i've ever played in any MMO... I didn't mention 10-13 levels because ya your gimped without run speed..

Also even if what you say is true, you can usually level to 20+ in a matter of a couple days easily...

Oh BTW, if you hate leveling 10-19 in pvp, you probably should quit now, because when you hit 50 in just normal gear, all the pvp'ers in Champion and Battle master gear are going to destroy you badly as you slowly gear up...
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Alericus
03.26.2012 , 09:57 AM | #37
I believe Bioware is planning to do this. I read a post they are looking at it...at some point.
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Luciferhawke
03.26.2012 , 10:00 AM | #38
Quote: Originally Posted by Monoth View Post
When did they put Expertise on lvl 40 pvp gear?
the pvp weapons have expertise as low as 36 i think (somewhere around there) Though it's a really small amount. Like 4, which is nothing.

At 40 it's something 17. People would then buy the weapon, take out the enhancement with the exp, then put that in their armor

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Ruckari
03.26.2012 , 10:01 AM | #39
Quote: Originally Posted by Monoth View Post
When did they put Expertise on lvl 40 pvp gear?

I just hit 50 maybe a month ago and before that all the PvP lvl 40 gear had no Expertise on it.... and as a lvl 14-20 I had no issues PvP'ing in warzones... I thought it was the most balanced PvP i've ever played in any MMO... I didn't mention 10-13 levels because ya your gimped without run speed..

Also even if what you say is true, you can usually level to 20+ in a matter of a couple days easily...

Oh BTW, if you hate leveling 10-19 in pvp, you probably should quit now, because when you hit 50 in just normal gear, all the pvp'ers in Champion and Battle master gear are going to destroy you badly as you slowly gear up...
if people save commendations there is a little bit of expertise on the 40+ weapons (which can be put into the gear, gets you very little expertise tho. like 6-10 per wearable gear)

but i have to say. when i have alts between 14-20 i can easily take down 40+ especially if they dont know their class.

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Monoth
03.26.2012 , 10:03 AM | #40
Quote: Originally Posted by Luciferhawke View Post
the pvp weapons have expertise as low as 36 i think (somewhere around there) Though it's a really small amount. Like 4, which is nothing.

At 40 it's something 17. People would then buy the weapon, take out the enhancement with the exp, then put that in their armor
In that case they should just remove expertise from the weapons, problem solved.... or if they want to keep it make pvp weapons not have mod slots so they can't remove it and put it in their armor...
F2P is like driving on a long stretch of highway with toll booths every 1/2 mile