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Alderaan Warzone: If you're Losing DON"T CAP!

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Alderaan Warzone: If you're Losing DON"T CAP!

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KungpowSalmon
03.26.2012 , 09:51 AM | #181
Quote: Originally Posted by Tyraelium View Post
Again, this just isn't true. These players are not "waiting for a team to carry them". They are just micromanaging the use of their time. If the game is already going to be a loss, then why cap a node? You are only adding time to a game you are going to lose anyway.

Also, OP is encouraging people to move away from nodes, to do exactly what you despise (those that huddle at a turret for defender points). OP was saying that in those situations, it is better to let them 3 cap you (Don't cap a node back).

You're not wrong for thinking that it is still possible to win, but the likelihood is low. The only thing at risk is PRIDE, which, as we know, is worthless.
But the problem with this is not everyone is going to EVER be on board to effectively forfeit a match. EVER. Unless you have a full premade. I'm certain you will see this happen when rated wz come into full swing, just as you see the same happen in arena/rated bg in wow.

But you will never convince a full pug to quit just because you think it's the best way to micromanage your time. Everyone has their own idea of what wins and losses are, what is challenge worthy and what is simply not worth the effort.

In a pug scenario, you owe it to the others that are still trying to win to try your best to help them. It should never be the other way around.
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Quitting a losing warzone is only a few steps down from flipping over a checker board the minute you're forced to king your opponent.

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islander
03.26.2012 , 09:52 AM | #182
Quote: Originally Posted by Twor View Post
Never give up, never surrender!
quitting is for pusses.
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Tyraelium
03.26.2012 , 09:54 AM | #183
Quote: Originally Posted by richardya View Post
I know it's just a game but aren't you people embarrassed giving up like that? They need to make sports mandatory for kids. Did any of you see the movie 300? "The world will know that.......that few stood against many, and before this battle was over, even a god-king can bleed."
Spartan's didn't have the option to requeue for Thermopylae.

If my life or account subscription depended on every Warzone I was in, yes I would obviously play every match out and pray for that 0.001% chance to overcome a large score gap (2x:x).

However, since Warzones are PvP skirmishes where you earn currency based on your rate of games completed per hour, I'll continue to advocate for quicker Warzone matches.
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VainEldritch
03.26.2012 , 09:55 AM | #184
Quote: Originally Posted by Ch_Zero View Post
If you are going to lose a game against the opposite faction and they 3 cap you,

Don't try to be a hero and cap one of the bases, it just slows down the game.

You can argue for defender points, but it's alot better to farm a position while the flag has been capped by the opposite faction, since they will keep rushing to defend the flag.

This speeds up the game and makes it so you can get your 4 medals quite easily.


Thank you
Sorry mate, I wont do that. I play the game my way, you play it yours. My way: play for the win and fun of PvP, and if the win becomes impossible I play for the fun of PvP. If they have turrets and I'm alive, they'll dang well have to fight to keep them - timer be hanged!
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me_unknown
03.26.2012 , 09:55 AM | #185
i would love to see the op banned from warzone queues.

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Pistols
03.26.2012 , 09:56 AM | #186
Quote: Originally Posted by Tyraelium View Post
However, since Warzones are PvP skirmishes where you earn currency based on your rate of games completed per hour, I'll continue to advocate for quicker Warzone matches.
I enjoy making fun of people like you in Ops chat.

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richardya
03.26.2012 , 09:56 AM | #187
Quote: Originally Posted by Tyraelium View Post
However, since Warzones are PvP skirmishes where you earn currency based on your rate of games completed per hour, I'll continue to advocate for quicker Warzone matches.
It is a competition.

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Tyraelium
03.26.2012 , 09:58 AM | #188
Quote: Originally Posted by richardya View Post
Scoring a goal when you are down 5-0 or preventing the 6 cap is what it's all about.
If a team outmatches you and owns two turrets all game and you finally reclaim the the 2nd turret when down to 5, be proud.
If you didn't make it past the 1st door in voidstar and manage to hold the opposing team out of the datacore even though you lost anyway then you are playing right.
Yes, and no. You can feel proud but you didn't change the outcome of the match whatsoever. You still lost, you got the same amount of rewards (at a lower rate of valor+comms/minute for drawing out a loss).

Looking for a consolation prize in a Warzone just to make yourself feel better for a loss is not a good enough reason to waste time (increasing the time it takes to complete a warzone by 20-40%), especially if the consolation prize is LESS VALOR, LESS COMMS. You are only punishing yourself further for the loss.
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Pistols
03.26.2012 , 09:59 AM | #189
Quote: Originally Posted by Tyraelium View Post
Yes, and no. You can feel proud but you didn't change the outcome of the match whatsoever. You still lost, you got the same amount of rewards (at a lower rate of valor+comms/minute for drawing out a loss).

Looking for a consolation prize in a Warzone just to make yourself feel better for a loss is not a good enough reason to waste time (increasing the time it takes to complete a warzone by 20-40%), especially if the consolation prize is LESS VALOR, LESS COMMS. You are only punishing yourself further for the loss.
Did you ever watch the carebears show when you were younger?

Serious question, just curious..

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Tyraelium
03.26.2012 , 10:01 AM | #190
Since you guys seem to love analogies...

When you play chess and you get checkmated, you don't play the game out and hope your opponent forgets what he has to do to win. You lay down your king and say "gg, re?"
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