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1.2 = best pvp gear for free, and no reason to play rated. people are quitting

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1.2 = best pvp gear for free, and no reason to play rated. people are quitting

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Smashbrother
03.25.2012 , 10:17 PM | #111
Quote: Originally Posted by Ceasaigh View Post
But here in lies the argument as long as you have gear as the defining factor skill will never really play into it.

A fully geared BM will simply smear a under geared Centurion, it doesn't matter the skill level of either player frankly. With Higher Expertise you simply mitigate more damage than someone with lower Expertise. You have the advantage with higher Expertise PERIOD.

All you have to do is look at 10-49 PvP bracket. It's competitive because of the bolster and people are usually on level with there gear, so skill plays more into the equation because for the most part people have equal stats.
The 10-49 bracket is no different, and is worse actually. The 40+ that have most of their talents points absolutely destroy the lowbies that have very few talent points. Skill is not a factor in 10-49 either.

At least at 50 I only have to suffer getting owned for a few days before I can get full cent/champ gear.

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Izola
03.25.2012 , 10:29 PM | #112
For the love of GOD....


PRESEASON....

Quit if you like, My team will have the reps in when the real season starts and you will lose!

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ronnex
03.25.2012 , 11:32 PM | #113
Quote: Originally Posted by Smashbrother View Post
The 10-49 bracket is no different, and is worse actually. The 40+ that have most of their talents points absolutely destroy the lowbies that have very few talent points. Skill is not a factor in 10-49 either.

At least at 50 I only have to suffer getting owned for a few days before I can get full cent/champ gear.
Worse than that from 45 + you can already run around with ~4% expertise

Also to all those that speak about skilled pvpers ..... how can you even use that term when different classes have lets call it playskill requirements.

In regards of 1.2 and being the "Pre Season" patch :

It just means they will allow everyone more or less the same access of gear and mostly once the Season start you will have access to better Gear depending how your Rating is.

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Everax
03.25.2012 , 11:39 PM | #114
none of this will matter when the next pvp mmo comes out this year..cause when it does...no one will still be here to care

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brokenspiders
03.26.2012 , 02:18 AM | #115
Quote: Originally Posted by Everax View Post
none of this will matter when the next pvp mmo comes out this year..cause when it does...no one will still be here to care
I'll still be here, enjoying my game. As will my guild. And our Allied Guilds. As well as those who already invested time and money on the enemy faction.

Think about it this way. If your a newbie 50 and the first 20 or so PVP matches you enter you lose (not just lose but get facestomped) you would get discouraged, and being discouraged would make you unsub.

So say you don't unsub at that point and continue on to try and get gear to level the playing field. If you continually get rolled you wouldn't earn as many medals and the grind would become unbearably long. Again, another reason to unsub. Unsubs mean less players to PVP with. Which makes Queue times longer.

Equalizing gear does two things; It makes it so people are willing to invest more time into PVP (making Queue times less of a burden, and makes sure you do not have warzones shut down mid battle because of lack of players), and you ensure that those who are actually good at PVP still rise to the top, and have proof to point to for bragging rights.

Remember; you can suck at PVP and still get BM and WH sets. All it takes is time. Even if you lose you still get valor and commendations. Its inevitable so long as people keep plugging away. If you really want to be elite then a ranked Warzone is the way to go, instead of some silly armor that, given enough time, everyone in the game has a chance to get.

I know change can be hard, but no MMO remains static.

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Nicain
03.26.2012 , 06:16 AM | #116
Quote: Originally Posted by Izola View Post
For the love of GOD....


PRESEASON....

Quit if you like, My team will have the reps in when the real season starts and you will lose!
YOu guys and your preseason make me lol. Yes your team will probably beat up on whoever is left because it will be like nine people who are such fan boys that they couldn't dream of playing anything not star wars.

Those competitive gamers who want a challenge in their game, will have shuffled off to another game. So yes once the changes you want are in you'll finally be that SW god you envisioned yourself and you h ave to put in zero time to get it. Only you'll be on a dead game on a dead server because no one just wants to burn time getting everything for nothing, with no work.

So enjoy being spoon fed while you play Hello Kitty Adventure Island with lightsabers!