Alderaan Warzone: If you're Losing DON"T CAP!

All you squids who advocate quitting in the face of adversity:

Post your toon and server name.

Why hasn't anyone taken me up on this?

Maybe because you know you're BAD, and you want to stay anonymous.

Ah, the internet.

Tell me to my face about how you think I should let the other guys win, about how I should just roll over like a pansy.

Some people are givers and some are takers.

C'mon takers, post your toons and servers. Any of you have the cajones?

Oh wait, I'm talking to a bunch of people who roll over and die in the face of tough odds.

Of course you won't show yourselves.

i can't believe that guy that keep replaying such and preach to be looser... honestly when i was younger nobody would ever had such a shameful attitude.

Honestly i would love to know the name of the char of those people i wouldn't mind avoid them all in pvp even if it means to drop a minigame and lose valor or commandation

The people that are losing big that camp at their one node for medals are pathetic. At least try.

For someone that "doesn't care" about what other people think you sure do come across as awfully angry. Did someone personally attack you in this thread?

op: stop being bad.

"**** they just sank all the battleships in the 7th fleet"
"wow. fail. Ok, well, let's just surrender."


Not to mention that I pvp to, you know, pvp. It's not as fun when I lose, but it's still fun. What's NOT fun is listening to quitters QQ. The game is over when the scoreboard is up.

1. CW can be won at any time until scoreboard shows up. "Teaching" people an attitude that they should stop when it's "impossible" (while in fact, it is possible until your team hits 0), you leave the choice of that "moment" to individuals. Now OP might think that 10:600 is impossible, other people will start much earlier to get their def points and because of them, the team is losing which is the reason I think this attitude is wrong.

2. only Voidstar is "definately" lost if the enemy team progressed faster, as far as I remember this will be addressed with 1.2, finishing the game as soon as the team in the second round progressed faster. Therefore with this change, there is no rightful solution in any warzone at any time or situation to stop trying to win.

3. people like OP are the reason you don't have massive open scale PvP because if everyone "mathematically" calculates that, if the opposite team has more people = you will end up losing, no one would engange open PvP.

Also please for those which agree with OP, post your chars/ server.

never tell me the odds

This.

Just because Reggie Miller scored 8 points in 9 seconds doesn't mean you should expect to win a game of basketball while down 7 points with 10 seconds left to play.

Of course there are always the miraculous comebacks but those are just that, miraculous comebacks.

Usually I try to kill whoever I can even while badly losing since defender medals takes a while to accumulate so I might as well try to kill somebody, though if it looks like I am the only person charging up against a sea of reds I'll be forced to hang out by the turret. If half of your team is standing by the turret there's pretty much no conceiveable way the other 4 guys can mount an effective comeback, so sometime you got to call your losses if you got too many quitters.

Usually the best thing to do in an obvious losing effort is to find another guy and try to sneak attack another point. If you see 4 guys defending then you can just AFK since the enemy saw through it, and if they didn't see through it, you might as well attack and see what happens.

No actually we understand the OP just fine, the only sort of pvp they enjoy is when they are being boosted to victory against a group of poorly skilled/geared players. They spam their one button to their hearts content and tell themselves they are nothing short of genius. Of course as soon as they meet a half decent team they go and hide in a corner and call everyone else nabs.

You learn very little in victory against weak players this is when they should be sitting down on the turret not participating, when faced with overwhelming odds or more skilled players is when they should be getting stuck in honing their skills and learning to play.

They are also the type of player who says the scoreboard is a completely inaccurate means of measuring their pitiful performance, what they fail to realise is that under any possible performance measure the result would be the same.

It boils down to pride at the end of the day........they clearly have none.

The "quitter" attitude is the biggest problem with PvP in swtor. It's an epidemic, with people quitting the moment the other team has any sort of advantage, and without ever even attempting to shift the balance. Voidstar is the only WZ that has an actual point of no return, both Huttball and CW can be won up until the end, and everyone should TRY to win up until the end. I personally only give up when I realize that the rest of my team has given up and I'm sick of dying because I'm getting ganged up on 6 to 1 with no backup.

Honestly, the most confusing part of this mindset to me is that in my opinion, the WHOLE POINT of PvP is winning through adversity. I do not remember anything about any of the landslide victories in WZ's, but weeks or months later, I still happily recall the times that a game of Huttball was won after being down 3 or 4 goals, or we won a WZ with 6 players to the opposition's 8, or a game of CW came down to 0-5 (I've seen it happen twice, it's awesome), or better yet, we DID come back from a 3 cap or being doubled up in score; I've been in games where that has happened a few times as well.

I don't understand how you couldn't think those are the most fun games possible, or maybe you just aren't playing the game for the sake of fun (which is weird, it is a "game" after all). If you're only playing so that you can win in massacres and easy victories, go PVE against mindless drones. I thought the whole point of playing humans was to experience something more challenging. No one is forcing you to play WZ's, so if you're going to play them, ACTUALLY play them. Don't encourage more people to give up, because believe me, you quitters are already well in the majority, and you're all making the game much less fun for those of us who are actually trying to enjoy it.