p2p vs f2p

What...

F2P hasn't ruined anything.

I'll never support F2P.

No, I really dislike the microtransaction model.

I would keep playing depending upon how F2P is implemented. Many F2P games turn out horrible. Some...not so bad.

Then again, I'm one of those who feels F2P does not cost more; because i don't purchase microtransaction items. If I can't earn it in a F2P game, then i go without.

The only F2P games I've bought things from their store are STO and LOTRO. That's only because I was a lifer prior to them going F2P, so i get free points every month. Otherwise I wouldn't spend a dime. There's no need to. Everything can be earned with some patience.

I will say, though, that I really do not like how STO has turned out with F2P. The whole feeling of the game has gone down hill.

No. I used to play City of Heroes and enjoyed every second of it. The second it went free to play and I saw you had to buy archetypes and powers, I unsubbed and uninstalled. What's worse? Stuff they told us "couldn't be done" when it was p2p like hoverboards and elemental powers all of a sudden are doable and you have to pay extra for them. No. Not this time. Free 2 Play is never truly free.

DCUO, STO, LoL, Tribes: Asc etc.

There are some very decent free to play models out there.
The Asian-style f2p is bad, no matter how you look at it However, the Western market has found many ways to improve on this system, making it better and far less insulting.

Microtransactions can never fail, as long as the developers will only keep cosmetic and gimmicky stuff in the Item Shop. Because, while there will always be people who will buy those things, the system itself won't affect the others in a direct manner.

I would never be against the developers selling things that don't affect the game gameplay-wise. And since f2p seems like the future for many games out there, I would support the idea, as long as they keep it at a decent level.
More money than most of you can ever imagine, can be made out of cosmetic and gimmicky stuff.

At this point, I think it's clear that there won't be many new players. TOR has reached its peak with the current business model. So, unless they/we want it to die a slow and painful death, we should consider alternatives. There are always alternatives. Never exclude an idea just because others failed at implementing it.

Conclusion: microtransations for cosmetic and gimmicky stuff.
Free to play seems like the way to attract a huge number of players. Which is one of the main problems TOR is facing.


PS & LE: Shall I give some examples of how I see f2p TOR?

• Special companion customization options
• Special costumes
• Special ship interior/exterior visual customization
• Special titles
• Special vehicles/mounts
• Social items stuff
• Even bigger bank/inventory slots
• Special Companion Gifts
• Boosters that increase the rate at which Crew Skills progress
• Different skin colors/hair/facial features and so on for when creating a new character.

The list can go on and on and on. And a *beep*load of money can be made from stuff like this.

I agree with above poster. Westerns have a strong sense of entitlement, and many people think of they put their little 50 cents a day in the bucket they should have everything that everyone else gets at their disposal. Easter F2P is very different. However I do enjoy more western F2P, STO is a good example. They have a simple item mall and a way to earn paid for points on the free system, slowly. And that kind of system doesn't hurt a thing, you can earn your items slowly or blow some money and get it quickly, giving us the player options with a FREE game. Many people don't see it that way, the whole entitled thing...

People have such stupid prejudice, there are some pretty good games with the free model, in fact the bigwigs(blizzard included) are considering a free to play model for the mid-term future, in a few years(5 or more) it's likely we'll start seeing a lot of those. A wow dev said even wow would enter the model.

Then again wow already have lots of f2p store things for people to buy(and incredibly enough they love buying overpriced ugly pixels.) in most games it doesn't really matter much, dcuo's model doesn't have game-affecting buyable stuff for example, people think every f2p game has GIGASWORDS for 5 dollars that are better than mega swords which you get by raiding this is a popular lie.

Don't ever play WoW then.

Although I did pay the 10 bucks for a baby boomkin

I' rather it not go f2p but if it was to go that model what I'd like is, pay for the game and pay for expansions but no sub fee, and of course nun of that pay to win stuff